Pocket Knives and other bladed tools

[premmington]

I always carry a pocket knife - always have done!

My wife always has a small folding fruit knife in her handbag - she is always peeling apples and fruit. She does not like to bite into them like normal people!

I think UK law has got it about right - 75mm folding/non locking.

Yes... In the past I have had some 4" locking knifes - but I don't really need anything bigger than 3" for what I use a knife for daily (getting in to boxes - stripping insulation off cables and scrapping my pipe out). Too be honest - the one I carry has a 60mm blade if they made it 50mm - I would get by OK.


Plus if you have legitimate reason for tools for work - any sharp edged instrument is allowed.


For once - I do think UK law has got it right. Plus the complete ban in schools is OK with me.


Yes I had a big sheath knife as kid - I think everybody of my generation did - but did I really need one? Plus I also had a black widow catapult and glass marble projectiles and I can assure you that was not a good idea!

My grandfather showed me how to sharpen a knife till it has a razor sharp edge. Only the other week - I and my grandson sharpened some of our kitchen knives up - so sharp you could shave the hairs off you arm with them - but I won't be buying him a full sized "rambo knife" for his birthday - times have changed - maybe for the better?

 

[james butler]

I would be a bit careful to just assume that.
Test out a range of pellets.
I had a few HW100's and the heavier pellets gave the least ftlbs.

i had the same with my pellet gun as it was designed to use the older heavier pellets and produced 11fps and the lighter pellets much faster.
i got rid of the gun because of that too much trouble.

 

[Cobbler]

Police shot a guy carrying a chair leg years ago, is that classed as a dangerous weapon?

 

[ronan]

Not worth carrying a knife in Uk regardless of size/folding/locking, most cops don’t know the in’s and outs of knife laws and only know the first sentence "any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed" in a public place.

Sadly although its your right to carry a sub 3inch non locking folder except school grounds etc, you need to consider if its worth your day being ruined going to jail and a several month letter writing battle with the CPS and hiring a lawyer. Seen a few guys go through this nonsense with legal knifes. Would love to carry a pen knife but not willing to put up with any PC shiney buttons ruining my day/year.

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[ronan]

The issue is, a certain group of people like stabbing each other to death in certain areas, especially in old London town. If the coppers stop and search these people, then the usual mp's pounce on them accusing them of prejudice. If the police don't stop the stabbings then they are accused by the same mp's of not caring. To be honest the police are on a hiding to nothing, they cannot win no matter what they do.

 

[Shox Dr]

They can’t. But on the other hand they certainly dont help themselves


An old man was tazered walking home from the pub a few yrs ago in Goole. He’d been playing in a pool match so was carrying it home. Earlier that night a car load of Russians had smashed the front window of a house at the otherside of town and given the occupants a good hiding. Clubs and axes were apparently used in the attack.

So this old guy was walking home when two police officers stop him and when he tells them to stop been so daft, in a thick east yorkshire accent they trazer him.

 

[premmington]

The issue is, a certain group of people like stabbing each other to death in certain areas, especially in old London town. If the coppers stop and search these people, then the usual mp's pounce on them accusing them of predudice. If the police don't stop the stabbings then they are accused by the same mp's of not caring. To be honest the police are on a hiding to nothing, they cannot win no matter what they do.

Yes... A certain group of society are protecting their stash of drugs and money with knives/guns/acid/machetes/carpenters chisels.

I am in favour of stop & search by the police.

I allow myself to searched when going on an aeroplane - it is for my own safety. By allowing the airport security to search me - they then search everybody else.


No policeman is going to arrest you for a small folding pocket knife - if you are going around your business in lawful manner.

 

[ronan]

Yes... A certain group of society are protecting their stash of drugs and money with knives/guns/acid/machetes/carpenters chisels.

I am in favour of stop & search by the police.

I allow myself to searched when going on an aeroplane - it is for my own safety. By allowing the airport security to search me - they then search everybody else.


No policeman is going to arrest you for a small folding pocket knife - if you are going around your business in lawful manner.

Me too, apart from the inconvenience of being delayed for a few minutes, if you have nothing to hide, then why get upset about it ?

 

[ronan]

They can’t. But on the other hand they certainly dont help themselves


An old man was tazered walking home from the pub a few yrs ago in Goole. He’d been playing in a pool match so was carrying it home. Earlier that night a car load of Russians had smashed the front window of a house at the otherside of town and given the occupants a good hiding. Clubs and axes were apparently used in the attack.

So this old guy was walking home when two police officers stop him and when he tells them to stop been so daft, in a thick east yorkshire accent they trazer him.

Its like there are two parallel worlds, one the humdrum everyday lives we live and in the same areas, the drug gangs, thieving gangs, county lines gangs etc, which is the unreal world the police have to work in.

 

[Parm]

Police shot a guy carrying a chair leg years ago, is that classed as a dangerous weapon?

Yep I remember that episode

 

[Migmac]

A few of mine. Got a few more somewhere!

 

[Migmac]

It is recommended to always check your air rifles with a chrono and adjust if necessary.

My r10 is 11.7ftlbs with jsb heavys so any other pellet is under that.
A chrono now is sub £50 so no reason not to check

If the police need to check your air rifle, they use a pellet of their choice not one you use. My rifle is FAC, power levels don’t worry me

 

[premmington]

Me too, apart from the inconvenience of being delayed for a few minutes, if you have nothing to hide, then why get upset about it ?

The Police/MI5/anti terrorist squad - can follow me about 24-7 and search me twice daily - they can intercept my emails/phones calls/text messages - trawl thru my internet search cache - they will soon get bored of my "everyday life". They are welcome to inspect any aspect of my life. I have nothing to hide. Feel free - come on in and have look - I will even make you cups of tea while you are doing it...

If I show no resistance to be being searched/investigated - maybe once they have got bored with my dull little life - they may find someone a bit more exciting who was going to do us boring people some harm.

 

[ronan]

If the police need to check your air rifle, they use a pellet of their choice not one you use. My rifle is FAC, power levels don’t worry me

Aren't all airguns fac now in Scotland ? They are here apart from airsoft, so long as they are one joule or less.

 

[Migmac]

You get a license for air rifles, sub 12 ft/lb. Anything over 12ft/lb is classed as FAC , mine is 36ft/lb, deemed a firearm so has to go on my FAC.

 

[ronan]

You get a license for air rifles, sub 12 ft/lb. Anything over 12ft/lb is classed as FAC , mine is 36ft/lb, deemed a firearm so has to go on my FAC.

Whats the rigmarole for getting a sub-12ft/lb air rifle, Difficult ?

 

[Parm]

She does not like to bite into them like normal people!

That’s me too, I have a small folding ceramic knife that I always carry in my lunch box for this purpose

 

[Cobbler]

So this old guy was walking home when two police officers stop him and when he tells them to stop been so daft, in a thick east yorkshire accent they trazer him.

I’m sure it’s only a matter of time until the police kill someone with a tazer. Surely a voltage high enough to stun & incapacitate for a while has to be dangerous to someone with a heart condition or fitted with a pacemaker.

 

[Migmac]

Whats the rigmarole for getting a sub-12ft/lb air rifle, Difficult ?

I believe it’s quite straight forward, never done it

 

[Maker]

That’s me too, I have a small folding ceramic knife that I always carry in my lunch box for this purpose

I'm the same, I just only eat them at home.