It is ,but what normally happens is they spin them on with the impact to about 250ftlbs then check with a torque wrench set to 100 ftlbs .
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Not a new thing - I remember a mate at uni back in 1990 getting all new fasteners from a tyre place for his Skoda (a real Skoda, not a rebadged VW 
) as they'd been done up rather tight then checked .. . sure its happened since the first tyre place opened.
I either take wheels, or refit them myself at the place I go to.
) as they'd been done up rather tight then checked .. . sure its happened since the first tyre place opened.I either take wheels, or refit them myself at the place I go to.
What about the Dugga Dugga torque limiters ?
I've seen them in sockets too but the extension bars seem more practicle for dealing with different sized nuts.
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I've seen them in sockets too but the extension bars seem more practicle for dealing with different sized nuts.
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How do they work?What about the Dugga Dugga torque limiters ?
I've seen them in sockets too but the extension bars seem more practicle for dealing with different sized nuts.
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Their different diameter shafts, so they twist when they exceed there rated torque.
I guess it's a bit like the old school "scale" type torque wrench.
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Next door had a puncture and I had to put the car on the ground and use my telescopic brace to loosen his wheel studs, his knuckles were cracking trying to undo them with his cross brace and his scissor jack was wobbling 
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It's common for tyre monkeys to inflate the tyre to the pressure on the sidewall, and some will argue that's the recommended pressure.
No, it's the max safe pressure for max load.
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What do you expect from fully trained experts on ,possibly, minimum wage.
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Guess it's another advantage of living in Wales and having lots of small independents. Don't have this issue with any of them.
Plus they all remember you. Although that might be because I've turned up in several 4x4s, a 6x6 and an 8x8...
Plus they all remember you. Although that might be because I've turned up in several 4x4s, a 6x6 and an 8x8...
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They work very, very well. I ended up buying a load for our fitters because they were destroying too many fasteners with a few extra ugga dugsWhat about the Dugga Dugga torque limiters ?
I've seen them in sockets too but the extension bars seem more practicle for dealing with different sized nuts.
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These limiters are engineered to flex over a certain impact. They only work on absorbing impact energy. Different material grades and different diameters absorbing more, or less. Put a 500nm gun on a 100nm torque stick, and you'll still only get 100nm out, no matter how many uggas you dug.. Repeatable and checkable with a torque wrench for peace of mind.
They couldn't be trusted to use them either though, so the charge hand ended up taking all of the guns and locking them up. Job well done IMO.
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Also some wheel bolts do themselves up, or chemically weld themselves up. I was absolutely raging when I ended up snapping a britool power bar knuckle trying to undo my alfa 159 wheels, blaming the tyre monkey. Apparently common on those. I tightened em up with a torque wrench myself, with antisieze. 12 months later I nearly broke a 2nd power bar undoing them again!
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The tyres actually have a note on the side wall saying maximum pressure to seat the bead 40psi.
But you need to be able to read...
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Thats where you need the copper grease I guess
...thats a joke of course.....please please please don't use copper grease on wheel nuts/bolts or any torqued fasteners!!!!
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Only had half the tyres to change...They are probably pulling straws to see who gets the 8x8
To be fair Narbeth didn't change them because they couldn't source tyres for it but they tend to remember a 6x6 showing up with an 8x8 on a trailer behind it. Ironically the 6x6 had two lawn mower tyres in the bed to change...
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Why?Thats where you need the copper grease I guess
...thats a joke of course.....please please please don't use copper grease on wheel nuts/bolts or any torqued fasteners!!!!
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It alters the torque setting.
Any lubrication means that you require less torque to achieve the correct clamping force. Or to put it another way - using the normal torque setting would result in overtightened nuts/studs. It can be quite a margin too, 30% wouldn't be exceptional.
Quoted torque values apply to a “dry” fastener unless otherwise stated - so for example some ARP headstuds are torqued while lubricated with a special grease, but they do explicitly state that.
For wheelnuts etc it is assumed the fasteners are torqued without any lubrication.
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Having said that I have applied copper grease to most wheel bolts I've fitted but on the threads, not the mating faces of the taper that clamps against the wheel.
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I've been known to put a smear on the mating surface of the hub, but never on the studs 
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