new speeding fines

[wookie]

Again I agree in principle but in reality the engine in our car "feels and sounds" the same at 50 as it does at 70!

Spot on mate, modern cars are too quiet and comfortable to reliably judge speed by sound IMHO.

A quick glance at the speedo to verify and I can hold that speed +/- <1mph from the feel/sound of the engine.

Due to years of working in noisy environments, tinnitus, multiple operations to repair a damaged ear drum, my hearing is less than great, I can't hear anything above 11Khz, the result... If I'm in a modern car I am unable to judge my speed based on sound because the sound is too quiet.

If however I'm on my motorbike or driving my Tr7 which has plenty of intake noise I can happily drive "by ear", you can clearly hear the change in tone as you liftoff or apply throttle.

Surely I'm not the only one who goes through the 50mph average limits on motorways spending half the time looking ahead and half looking at the speedo because there's no other way of telling how fast I'm going?

No your not, I spend far more time watching my speedo when in an "average speed area" than during normal driving, as do most people who want to keep points off their license, and it's not about wanting to drive too fast but if you try to drive slower than everybody else it's just plain dangerous. It's a bit like that pedestrian bridge that opened over the Thames where it shook like mad because everybody just got in-sync, you just go with the flow to be safe.

The max fine is still limited to £1000 or £2500 on motorways so those 500k a week footballers in their astons and bentleys can breath easy

Even if they got clobbered with 150% fine they would shrug it off, after all they can afford it.

If however you are on minimum wage you need every penny just to live nevermind being able to afford anything.

 

[tlovatt]

Does that go for the Police also. Every day i see them speeding past me. I am doing 75 on the motorway and they cruise past at a guess 80 or more, no blues n two`s either. I drive in a 30 and they are going faster than me when i am doing the limit.

It is covered in s87 Road Traffic Regulations, Technically the emergency services are not permitted to drive in excess of the speed limit at all, by virtue of s87, vehicles being used in an emergency situation are exempt from the speed limit. If the vehicle is not being used for an emergency (or the wording of the act where "the observance of that provision would be likely to hinder the use of the vehicle for the purpose for which it is being used on that occasion") then they have to obey the speed limit which will apply to them (unless undertaking training).

Keep in mind though, if you are doing an indicated 75 on your speedo, there is a good chance you are actually driving at below 70 MPH

 

[the snooper]

Speeding is as simple as any other law, you take your chance as to whether you get caught or not and if you take the chance and get caught you've only got yourself to blame, it's also no good saying the police speed past me, We don't know where they are going or how much of a hurry they are in, they might need to be somewhere quickly but road conditions are in their favour so dont need blues or siren on, moan about it all you like that's the way it is so build a bridge and get over it

 

[Crater Creator]

Some speedos over-read by quite a lot - more than 10% depending on tyre size, inflation etc. I have a vehicle that is over by about 12%, which makes a bit of difference on a longish run.
I have a GPS stuck to the window which gives actual speed, I tend to use that to set my "speedo speed".
In the car I use cruise control nearly all the time, even in town, to stop myself creeping up in speed, otherwise it's very easy to end up doing well into what now seems to be "band B" category without even noticing.
I do however notice most of the traffic overtaking me when entering 40s and 30s. I'm too grippy to get points and pay more for insurance though.
Having said that, it's a complete let-down when have been driving in Europe, particularly Germany and Italy, and come back to UK and have to slow down to what seems like walking pace.

 

[Richard.]

it was a friendly discussion so work that one out. and it didn't stay open

It wasn't a dig at you mate. Sorry if it come across like that. It was more to the point that some passionate people like to express there opinions and become abusive when not agreed with. This is the quickest way to get threads locked up and it's not needed.
I don't know about your thread,perhaps the mods got out of the wrong side of bed that day