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Am I the only one who is excited by this (in a positive way)?
E85 is the absolute bomb when it comes to making power from turbo charged engines, and I have personally been experimenting with Vpower blends with alcohol in the Subaru. I used to run 5litres of E85 to IIRC 40 litres of fuel, so that made it .... E9.4, so close enough to E10, and the car made more power and power came in slightly earlier (because we could make timing changes in the map). The road dyno (same stretch of road, in the same direction) showed about 10% increase in both torque and power compared to the petrol only map.
I wish they'd have gotten with the programme here in the UK and introduced E85, but I'll take E10 over E0, personally.
E85 is the absolute bomb when it comes to making power from turbo charged engines, and I have personally been experimenting with Vpower blends with alcohol in the Subaru. I used to run 5litres of E85 to IIRC 40 litres of fuel, so that made it .... E9.4, so close enough to E10, and the car made more power and power came in slightly earlier (because we could make timing changes in the map). The road dyno (same stretch of road, in the same direction) showed about 10% increase in both torque and power compared to the petrol only map.
I wish they'd have gotten with the programme here in the UK and introduced E85, but I'll take E10 over E0, personally.
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It would be OK if they introduced seperate pumps for E5 and E10, but no, they're just forcing it on everyone. Modern(ish) cars won't be a problem. As you read on here, its the small cheap appliance engines which sit for periods of time - they'll suffer.
Subarus in particular seem to benefit from ethanol, as they seem to be super efficient at making power low down, right in the knock range, and generally have to be held back from MBT, as i understand it. Ethanol allows them to push the timing envelope and get that MBT.
In theory burning alcohol as a renewable, will help stop CO2 emissions.
But
It takes more fossil fuel energy to create it than it than energy provides (More CO2)
,it damages fuel systems, it uses corn as a fuel and drives the cost of animal feed higher,it is subsidized by the tax payers.
It is a failure in its' stated mission.
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No it doesn't. This has been disproven many times.
The rest of your points, I agree with you
although the corn farmers in the midwest would disagree - the ethanol plants help regulate the price and keep it stable, as it's a pretty constant demand.
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Wouldn't surprise me. The timing of this covid plague seems to coincide with efforts of the administration to bring back industry from there to the US.
And all this export tax and vat extra charges.Wouldn't surprise me. The timing of this covid plague seems to coincide with efforts of the administration to bring back industry from there to the US.
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who s we
thought tony blair was finishedThe corn farmers demanded laws that required a certain amount of alcohol be used per year, supply and demand is not a factor.No it doesn't. This has been disproven many times.
The rest of your points, I agree with you
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They are being replaced with GE units with 3X the output.
Not hard to find the information.
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Cohline has been on it for at least the last five years that I have been selling it. Fully Ethanol resistant, injection rated and fully submersible. OEM to German marques, my BMW bike had Cohline from the factory in 2009. I offer a lifetime warranty against any degradation from any road fuel. I have yet to have any returned for that reason.
Cohline fuel hose.
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As long as you don’t run out it’s fine hahaaye, no more carbs, just bleeding fuel pumps, filters and diesel bug.....
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E10 also causes the older flexible pipes to rot. Blocks filters etc very quickly. The amount of moisture that the ethanol can “absorb” over winter is quite amazing, we get through quite a bit of this.
