MMA holder change

  1. Andrew Hayes

    Andrew Hayes Member

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    How on earth does this come apart so i can put a twist type on instead?
     
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  2. Seadog

    Seadog Forum Supporter

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    Why bother? Cut the wire close to the body and fit the new one.
     
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  3. Feet 'n Inches

    Feet 'n Inches Out of the rat-race at last

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    The one I have on a cheap, ancient buzz box at my Men's Shed has a simple plastic sleeve over the metal connection and rod clamp. Just a case of pushing the two bits apart and then dealing with freeing the cable from the clamp. Would that work with yours? I'll try and remember to take a look at the holder on my Clarke when I'm in my workshop tomorrow and post if I can figure out how it separates.
     
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  4. Paul.

    Paul. Moderator Staff Member

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  5. Andrew Hayes

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    Id prefer to keep it as a spare if im honest.
    Ill have a go at pulling it apart but thought those circles might be screw covers that are impossible to remove...
     
  6. premmington

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    The handle snaps upwards when fitted - it is Tweco - they are once use things.

    You cannot lever it down without breaking it - I have tried before. I think at one time - you could buy spare handles thou?
     
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  7. Andrew Hayes

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    I ended up cutting the cable with some wire spare, will have to make a connector if i ever want to use it again lol

    Thank you all for the input though !
     
  8. badabec

    badabec Forum Supporter

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    Put it in the bin now, it will save you storing it for 10 years and then binning it.
     
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  9. barking mat

    barking mat Barking at Pigeons

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    That's the truth of it, well said!
     
  10. Andrew Hayes

    Andrew Hayes Member

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    yeah i hate the thing and havent even used it lol faIr cop ill strip it of its brass and bin it lol
     
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  11. Feet 'n Inches

    Feet 'n Inches Out of the rat-race at last

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    Ah well . . . looks like my bit of input is too late. Just for info, though, the holder on my Clarke separates via a small countersunk screw which goes into the brass-work - the make is a Pragma 2 which may mean something to someone out there. :)
     
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  12. mdr

    mdr Collector of welding machines

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    Now it's cut off why not lightly drill out the stuck plastic cap on the handle and see what lies beneath? Perhaps a screw to release the handle? I've got one so I'm interested! ;)
     
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  13. hotponyshoes Member

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    Opposite side to the trigger.
    Take the covers/plugs out and it's the lower screw in this photo.
    You might have to drill the plug as they are a tight fit.
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  14. Andrew Hayes

    Andrew Hayes Member

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    So doing this ! lol
     
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  15. hotponyshoes Member

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    They are not the nicest things to use. The rod retaining grooves are a bit shallow, they work better if you get a small round file and make them a bit deeper.
    Not really sure if it's worth the effort, esab do the same style but its just loads better. They are only about 15quid new. I have got a box full if you want one :)
     
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  16. hotponyshoes Member

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    The spring clamp types are great if you are doing a long run with 2.5 rods. If it's one tooth on a digger bucket with a 4mm a screw type is better.

    Why not have both, I have both types set up on a 1m or so long lead then a couple of lengths of extension cable made up with male/female dinse connectors.
    A mate of mine has got both types but he has glued the dinse connectors into the bottom of the handles.
     
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  17. metalmelt Member

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    We always cut ours as they get hammered at the very end and they fray and corrode as they are always on site work, losing a few inches and making a new end often solves a lot of future problems.
     
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  18. Memmeddu

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    I use Crocodile style holder ,the exact make and model are SACIT ,mod PARVA2 .
    That's my preferred model since I use 2-2.5-3.2 mm electrodes
    I also have a SACIT PERFECTA 3 or 4 can't remember right now ,this one can use 3.2-4-5mm

    I like the idea of the dinse connection directly attached to the electrode holder, but I believe it can give problems while welding
    Side to side motion would translate in a twist and sooner or later you will end up with a falling cable and a stuck electrode
     
  19. Memmeddu

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    Solution ?
    Soldered terminal and heat shrink tubing.
    Little bit of grease on the screw
     
  20. James1979 Forum Supporter

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    I have a tweco same as op I believe. Horrible thing and I’ve never used it but it’s in the truck as a spare. As above, CSK under a plug
     
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