Lidl

[Muggins the Mug]

i migth learn something here, but it says suitable for all welding positions, also suitable for top weld. whats top welding?

Hi Darren,

That's what I thought when I checked out the specs for E4322, obviously who ever wrote up the bumf on the box didn't have a clue about welding positions. I'll be using them for flat welding and perhaps some fillets, but not much else.

I've just used 3 of those new rods and they're certainly different to the Phoenix 6013's, that's for sure. They're not as easy as the 6013's to strike and are less tolerant of a long arc length. They do seem to need a touch welding technique that was suggested by TIG Paul in another thread. Also they seem to splatter a lot even with the current turned down and a short arc length. Having said all that, I think they are still better than the SIP one's I've had.

I'm embarrassed to publish the photos as they look rough, but what the hell - I'm here to learn.

http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=102140&postcount=53

Regards,

Ian.

 

[Mikey D]

well i got a 5kg roll of mig wire this morning , says european made , not german made as you said muggins
,got some gloves too to tide me over as my tig gloves have a big hole in em , they will tide me over but there a bit thick for tig and too thin for mig/arc really bloody big too and my hands aint that small

cheers mike

 

[NeilH]

i went to lidl to look at the welding stuff today.

the gloves were ****.

i couldnt belive the way the mig wire was wound. it looked like a cotton reel.

and the threads on the tips looked like self tapping wood screws.

i only bought a bottle of 7up lol

 

[Muggins the Mug]

well i got a 5kg roll of mig wire this morning , says european made , not german made as you said muggins
,got some gloves too to tide me over as my tig gloves have a big hole in em , they will tide me over but there a bit thick for tig and too thin for mig/arc really bloody big too and my hands aint that small

cheers mike

Hi Mike,

My mistake, I must have been thinking about the wire brush I bought for less than £1 from there. By the way, the rods I got yesterday - I've now decided after burning about 7 of them, that they are far eastern crap.

Let us know how you get on with that MIG wire Mike, perhaps you'll have better luck with it than I did with those rods.

Regards,

Ian.

 

[irondarren]

You guys should really club together and buy in bulk. All it needs is a few of you that live locally to each other. You will get much better deals because you are buying in bulk, any carrage costs are split between a few of you, making them cheaper. It just has to be delivered to one address. The savings you will make are very great indeed
. For the price people have paid for those lidl welding rods, you could have got some quality welding rods. Mig tips have to be a classic one, ask weldequip how much a bag of 100 tips are (silly money) something like that split between 10 of you is a massive saving.
Same goes for flap wheels etc. very cheap if bought in bulk.
People should perhaps make more active use of this forum, by creating buying co-operatives. from fellow welders that are local to each other. Well worth the effort considering the savings you can make. And you all know what Malcolm is like, if it was something that was using forum space, he would just open another forum section, where you could all work out what you want and club together to do it. As its a benifit for forum members.

 

[Benji]

You guys should really club together and buy in bulk. All it needs is a few of you that live locally to each other. You will get much better deals because you are buying in bulk, any carrage costs are split between a few of you, making them cheaper. It just has to be delivered to one address. The savings you will make are very great indeed
. For the price people have paid for those lidl welding rods, you could have got some quality welding rods. Mig tips have to be a classic one, ask weldequip how much a bag of 100 tips are (silly money) something like that split between 10 of you is a massive saving.
Same goes for flap wheels etc. very cheap if bought in bulk.
People should perhaps make more active use of this forum, by creating buying co-operatives. from fellow welders that are local to each other. Well worth the effort considering the savings you can make. And you all know what Malcolm is like, if it was something that was using forum space, he would just open another forum section, where you could all work out what you want and club together to do it. As its a benifit for forum members.

This really is a good idea. Might well be worth throwing open to a vote to see how many are interested and how easily members could be grouped by area

 

[irondarren]

benji i really do think its worth it. not so much for me as i already get reasonable deals from suppliers because i buy in bulk. But seeing some of the prices you DIYers pay for bits and bobs, is actually quite high.

 

[Muggins the Mug]

Hi Darren,

In principle it's a good idea. I've not bought that many rods, but I've had enough duffers to put me off buying el cheapos from the supermarkets.

Regards,

Ian.

 

[irondarren]

Of course the greatest one might be to use the forum as leverage, to gain discounts. Perhaps Malcolm in his spare time could become a weld distributor. then we could just order direct from the forum.