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looks like a solid bit of kit...does the owner have a price in mind or are you to make an offer?
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its a bigun if its not worn out 200 quid topps or just above scrap price
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300 to 450 depending on spec. Looks like it has a short bed but a long throw. Appears to have a screwcutting gearbox too, nice big four jaw. Depends what else comes with it, if its 2ph or 3ph etc. to nail a firm price on it.
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We can see a large 4 jaw chuck, small 3 jaw SC chuck, gigantic faceplate in the background, what looks like two fixed steadies; any other tooling coming with it? It appears to be missing its gap bed section.
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I'd offer 30 quid over scrap price and go from there
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It looks similar in layout and proportions to the 16" swing gap bed on page 2 of the catalogue that's on Lathes.co.uk, albeit with a different headstock lever arrangement.
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IMO, having looked at loads of shagged old lathes before buying the DSG that I'm restoring now, the machine's value depends on how much wear it has and the tooling that comes with it. If the removeable bed gap is missing working close the the chuck (or faceplate if it comes with such) is going to be a problem. If it's in reasonable nick, and all the bits are there, it has to be worth £350-£450, although you might get it for a lot less.
If the Gap bed piece is missing -- walk away. If you get lots of goodies, £250 maximum, this is a very old and very heavy lathe that will have seen a lot of life and probably has a very big sized and very powerfull 3 phase motor on it. At least 5Hp maybe 71/2 Hp and at least two ton. can you move it and then have you enough electric??
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the reason it will be cheap is because of its size, most home workshops its 2 large for so its a buyers market. enginering firms wont want it as its 2 old and scrap price is crap at the mo just put a cheap bid in unless someone else is after it then u will have to haggle
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Looks like a traditional gap bed, i.e. one that does not have a gap piece to convert back to a straight bed. The advantage being a much bigger swing. Looks more like 750kg to me. A two ton lathe would be an impressive beast twice this size.
Interestingly, if you want super heavy stuff, look at MAS. They were made in the Ukraine (?) under the order of their Russian masters. The Russians would measure productivity by tonnage so the crafty Ukrainians bulked out the body on their already massive milling machines. They are proper monsters too. I'll see if I can find a pic. I was seriously considering one just for the looks until I saw the weight!
Just beautiful...
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The popular Harrisons weigh that much 3/4 Ton ---- and they are not a match to this amount of cast metal, the two bolt holes in the beds look like fixing holes--- possibly for a gap piece to be secured to.
If it is a 0152 then its quoted at being 48 Cwt or 2438 Lbs with a 71/2 Hp motor, if its the smaller 0151 then it comes in at a mere 28Cwt. with a 5Hp motor
I was in Parsons in the late 60s and early 70s with my next door neighbour,now big machines you aint seen nothing till you went into the machine shop, I also did some maintenace in the Turbine blade shop, probaly late 90s early turn of the century, CNC stuff, fascinating, 8 head machines, or to us 8 blades at once, the fire brigade couldnt have pumped coolant any quicker or with more volume.
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If it is a 0152 then its quoted at being 48 Cwt or 2438 Lbs with a 71/2 Hp motor, if its the smaller 0151 then it comes in at a mere 28Cwt. with a 5Hp motor
I was in Parsons in the late 60s and early 70s with my next door neighbour,now big machines you aint seen nothing till you went into the machine shop, I also did some maintenace in the Turbine blade shop, probaly late 90s early turn of the century, CNC stuff, fascinating, 8 head machines, or to us 8 blades at once, the fire brigade couldnt have pumped coolant any quicker or with more volume.
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I operated one those Lang lathes at Parsons in the late 60s, they were quite a capable machine.
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Those weights are kg not lbs.
OOOOOPs hold my hands well and truly up, My misstake, you are quite right and they are as you say. Kgs and Cwt not Lbs as I posted.
apologies.
Of course from school days we all remember 112 Lbs in a cwt and 20 cwt in a ton etc etc. 2240 Lbs in a ton. Its still a heavy lathe.
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Off topic,
My neighbour Walter Hall was an electrician with Parsons and free run of the place where as I believe many places had resticted access.He worked shifts and weekends, got me in on the Q T and I had an amazing full tour of the place. many years later I worked for a Newcastle based employer and we did an amazing amout of work in the complex including what was then the main reception on the left of Shields Road. An amazing place, crammed full of clever skilled men. I was always led to believe a Police motorcycle escort unit had a base in Parsons, almost everyday a huge Pickfords lowloader lorry and tractor units would leave and be off to the Docks or to detinations in the uK.
Fond fond memories.
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