It all started with a mark on the ceiling !

[roblane65]

This sort of stuff is what I do for a day job so the house is like a bloody busman's holiday ! . There extenuating circumstances when we started doing the house we didn't have any sodding money !

 

[redlig]

Your going to burn yourself out, grafting like that, and you can't rush these things.
I'd suggest putting the kettle on, having a brew and some biscuits, then maybe a couple of beers. Grafting all hours of the day and nights no good for anyone.

I'm exhausted just thinking about it please slow down if only for my sake.

 

[Keithmac]

I'm always amazed when people tile in all the services and drains with no access available afterwards.

When I did our bathroom I made sure the water ans waste was accessible one way or another for a few years down the line if anything started weeping.

Same with baths when people fit the taps first because there will be no access when it's in final position. No tap is bullet proof..

 

[roblane65]

Be prepared to be amazed then , the majority of the time access from here there and everywhere else just isn't option , and generally pipe work is filled and tested before it's closed in .

 

[DAPPH]

This sort of stuff is what I do for a day job so the house is like a bloody busman's holiday ! . There extenuating circumstances when we started doing the house we didn't have any sodding money !

Old saying:- You can always tell where a carpenter lives , because his gate hangs on one hinge .

I'm always amazed when people tile in all the services and drains with no access available afterwards.

When I did our bathroom I made sure the water ans waste was accessible one way or another for a few years down the line if anything started weeping.

Same with baths when people fit the taps first because there will be no access when it's in final position. No tap is bullet proof..

No bath . use a shower with a below floor or inside the floor joist space trap is even better think our inhe floor trap is ji=ust under 90 mm top to bottom..... 10 mm below the floor tile edges
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No bath . no edge sealant to replace or try to make look like a decent job behind the taps ..

 

[DAPPH]

Be prepared to be amazed then , the majority of the time access from here there and everywhere else just isn't option , and generally pipe work is filled and tested before it's closed in .

 

[Robotstar5]

Be prepared to be amazed then , the majority of the time access from here there and everywhere else just isn't option , and generally pipe work is filled and tested before it's closed in .

Since our shower was installed we have been plagued with a squeaking waste pipe whenever you get in it so when the builder pulled the kitchen ceiling down he opened out the slot in the joist to cure the problem

 

[gaz1]

that fitting was too tight in the first place you can see that from the photo

instead of relifting that shower tray and cutting more off the grey pipe hes pulled the shower forward fastened the trap to the shower tray and pushed the whole lot back with the comment it will do

 

[gaz1]

anyway for bathroom tanking heres a pic of industrial showers you find in old peoples homes or you can find them at swimming pools or other places

note the step out at the wall this allows the water to run off the walls and drip straight down to a sealed floor that means your walls are floating
and no point of the floor can get any water underneath it

wood floors do move and settle over time this can and will break seals

you can get this a few ways either grp and non slip floor paint rubber flooring or vinyl flooring

grp is not flexiable but it does have one hell of a water seal and is guaranteed not to leak for well over 30 years +
rubber is not guaranteed as long and neither is vinyl flooring but industrial vinyl flooring will pass the usage test

polysafe flooring colours will give you the colours

there is advantages to it as you can install a wet system underneath the wood floor alot better than electric heating that does fail or break due to over heating

now i like this system as its warm under you feet and is really water proof there is issues though dont put screws through the vinyl toilet pan and the bathroom sink

you can use a floating wall on a shower and this would stop any leaks caused by drips or wear on the unit i would also suggest you water proof up to the hand valve this stops any water getting through

 

[Ton-up]

This also started with a mark on the ceiling last Wednesday. Turned out it was the mixer leaking in the wall.
No way of turning water off just to shower so put two isolation valves in reachable through the round speaker hole.

 

[DAPPH]

Since our shower was installed we have been plagued with a squeaking waste pipe whenever you get in it so when the builder pulled the kitchen ceiling down he opened out the slot in the joist to cure the problem

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A right angle on a water draining pipe for the shower ...not something I'd ever do as you can't clean it of long hair & general soapy gunge . chamfered internal & externally solvent welded pipe rarely leak if done properly . Wrapping fibre insulation hair roll round the pipes where they go through the joists stop them vibrating and allow an easy slide .

On leave & a mission when my first G/F was living at my parents , the bloody landing floor creaked worse than a 99yr old arthritic getting out their rocking chair , no amount of Kung Foo walking on rice paper allowed me to reach my destination without me fearing I'd wake the dead .

Solution whilst mum , dad & the GF were out at work I lifted all the landing carpets , shook half a large can of Talcum powder along the board edges & ends and swept it in . Then ever so carefully drilled , counter sunk and put in 2 &1/2 inch Phillip's screws to hold the boards in place. Frequent missions were successfully accomplished over the next two years.


16 yrs later , taking to dad just before he died he said, " Dave , just how did you stop the landing floor squeaking ?"

 

[DAPPH]

This also started with a mark on the ceiling last Wednesday. Turned out it was the mixer leaking in the wall.
No way of turning water off just to shower so put two isolation valves in reachable through the round speaker hole.

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In one bungalow we had pressure to the bat was terrible . & even worse to a shower so I put in a power shower that emptied the loft header tank in short order . While I was at it I decided to put two stops in the supply in the wet room & added two small extra header tanks in the roof void set on a fraame sitting across the 3 foot wide hall way walls
The shower started to cause all manner of problems , eventually discovered that air was seeping in past the ball stop valves I'd only put the valves in with the flow in the wrong direction for them . Turned them round .. sorted . .

 

[roblane65]

Since our shower was installed we have been plagued with a squeaking waste pipe whenever you get in it so when the builder pulled the kitchen ceiling down he opened out the slot in the joist to cure the problem

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Well the biggest No No ! there to me is never ever use push fit waste on anything your never gonna get to . Solvent all the way for me .

 

[gaz1]

Well the biggest No No ! there to me is never ever use push fit waste on anything your never gonna get to . Solvent all the way for me .

your a bit biased

and yet you used the rubbish push fits for your hot/cold water instead of using copper pipes or soldered pipes

yet leak for leak the pressured pipes are the worst compared to the drain pipes

 

[Keith 66]

We once had a damp patch on our bedroom ceiling, one summer night we were just getting into bed & i noticed the damp patch had a black spot in it, I stood on the bed to find it was a hole & there was a wasps nest the other side of it, one crawled out & was dispatched then another. A piece of duct tape was applied over the hole but some got stuck to it & started to get cross. Wife said we had better deal with it.
I got a tin of fly spray swapped the nozzle for a long WD40 nozzle drilled a series of small holes through the plaster board & gave them the good news.
It got quite noisy & we had to cover a big patch of ceiling in duct tape!
Did the job though!

 

[roblane65]

your a bit biased

and yet you used the rubbish push fits for your hot/cold water instead of using copper pipes or soldered pipes

yet leak for leak the pressured pipes are the worst compared to the drain pipes

Different matter as far as I'm concerned Gaz , I've used 15mm and 22mm pushfits on copper and plastic pipe of all brands over many many years and only ever Had two failures , those were both on the old grey Hep de mountable fittings and as I've stated fecked on with by others and the grab rings inserted the wrong way . Which is why I think most manufacturers now make fitting you can't take apart ( to stop the idiots )
Seen a few failures on others work and mostly school boy errors rather than bad fittings bending pipes to tight rather than use an elbow , badly cut ends , no insets and scored and sratched pipes to name a few Oh and using crappy dirty fittings that have been knocking around in the bottom of the box for years , But I do detest pushfit waste .