Guess my mig welder

[madkayaker]

Air gun is how I do it.

 

[KimB]

Thanks for all of your help.
Kim

 

[penfold]

What a terrible fan and terrible installation; they might as well have not bothered fitting that, it can't do much beyond gently stirring air around inside the case. Poor thing needs a duct.

 

[zx9]

................ I bought it second hand a month or two ago. It's actually been pretty good.

That's the important bit, if it reliably does what you bought it to do.

I bought it being told it was sealey, I thought nothing of it to check for a name but I realised a week later that it doesn't actually say sealey on it ?
Yes I was having a blonde moment oops
Kim

I would not be too bothered about who branded it for sale, give it a bit of a clean inside and put it to work, enjoy.

 

[KimB]

What a terrible fan and terrible installation; they might as well have not bothered fitting that, it can't do much beyond gently stirring air around inside the case. Poor thing needs a duct.

Do you mean as in being placed where its circulation is blocked by the big rusty thing ?

 

[KimB]

That's the important bit, if it reliably does what you bought it to do.

I would not be too bothered about who branded it for sale, give it a bit of a clean inside and put it to work, enjoy.

I will do , Thanks for the feedback.

 

[ukracer]

I will do , Thanks for the feedback.

If you think it will work better with sealey logo on it I can cut one out of vinyl. But my guess is that it wont. (tongue in cheek) lol

 

[KimB]

Haha, I think it will be just fine I'll soon be back asking for help if it's not

 

[Wallace]

Looks like my old 1989 Einhell inside as do the controls and front panel printing so I'm thinking made in Italy by Telwin. What does the serial number say, does it give a date code?

If you think it will work better with sealey logo on it I can cut one out of vinyl. But my guess is that it wont. (tongue in cheek) lol

A Clarke sticker might make the spares cheaper than Sealey!

 

[KimB]

Looks like my old 1989 Einhell inside as do the controls and front panel printing so I'm thinking made in Italy by Telwin. What does the serial number say, does it give a date code?



A Clarke sticker might make the spares cheaper than Sealey!

I went and looked the only numbers I could see were these in the top right hand corner of this photo

 

[Wallace]

I went and looked the only numbers I could see were these in the top right hand corner of this photo

I read that as serial number 341588 with a manufacturing year of 2000. Looks like the Telwin 180/2 in the photo below.

 

[KimB]

It does look similar.
I guess like others have said they are all just the same machine branded with different names ...

 

[Wallace]

If the price was good and it works ok then it will probably serve you well for a lot of years. I gave my Einhell a good going over before I sold it to a friend and made an improvement to the wirefeed by cleaning and re-greasing the gearbox as the grease had turned to glue after 23 years. A couple of drops of light oil on the fan bearings helped it run quieter too. Might be worth checking the gas hoses for leaks, I've found leaks on my new Mig and the Tig wasting gas.

 

[KimB]

I payed £250 for it. Which I don't think was bad. Got a 10l bottle from Barnet welding supplies with some bits and wire for about 120 been pretty much good to go since.
I'll clean it all out next time I'm working though. Left the cover of to clean now ...

 

[penfold]

Sorry; i sounded a little negative there. It's a perfectly fine welder, but the fan cooling might as well not be there as the fan will drive very little air without a duct and will contribute very little in getting heat out of the casing. It will make a small difference to the duty cycle of the transformer, but disproportionately small considering how much extra you pay for fan cooling when they machines are new. If you can find a dead commercial fridge or computer power supplies you could rob ducted fans off them and mount them in place of the existing arrangement to boost the amount of cooling air exchange and the speed of the air circulating around the casing.

 

[Wedg1e]

Okay here I took loads of photos of the internals.
View attachment 40421

Hope that helps ?

For the best approximation of the manufacturing date, check out that IC (black rectangular 8-legged component) at top left of the PCB... the bottom line of text on it will have a date code that looks like 8536 (week 36 of 1985). Assuming the IC hasn't been changed since the welder was built, it was probably installed to the PCB within a couple of months or so of the date code.

 

[the snooper]

I've never Sean inside a sealy but that looks fairly well built. Not so sure about lack of air flow on rectifier bridge (Ali plates above fan) but I don't think that will be much of a problem

obviously not if its been around this long

 

[the snooper]

im going for a telwin I havnt seen a cebora with that type of handle and casing so at a guess most of the sealey's that look similar and have that type of handle are telwins made for other companies

 

[Wallace]

It's a perfectly fine welder, but the fan cooling might as well not be there as the fan will drive very little air without a duct and will contribute very little in getting heat out of the casing. It will make a small difference to the duty cycle of the transformer, but disproportionately small considering how much extra you pay for fan cooling when they machines are new. If you can find a dead commercial fridge or computer power supplies you could rob ducted fans off them and mount them in place of the existing arrangement to boost the amount of cooling air exchange and the speed of the air circulating around the casing.

Telwin Super Turbo........

A bit OTT and noisy compared to a Papst ducted fan though.

 

[KimB]

Telwin Super Turbo........

A bit OTT and noisy compared to a Papst ducted fan though.

I'd say that's more of a supercharged fan

I'll measure the voltage going to the fan at the moment and see if I can fit two fans maybe.

I'll have a look at the date on the electrical components also while I'm at it

Kim