But there’s a “ORT” at the end of the name.Early 50's Motobecane Z46C?
But there’s a “ORT” at the end of the name.Early 50's Motobecane Z46C?
The story I recall from my apprenticeship days ( 1966 to 1969 ) was it was required when it was designed to carry a fat farmer & his fat with along with a 50 kg sack of potatoes, a basket of eggs and a pig which was to be sold off at the market .Your photos are interesting.
I believe the 2CV was originally designed as a French agricultural vehicle to carry goods across plowed fields.
I gather that most rural French roads were little more than mud tracks back in the 1940s.who the hell would want to go across a ploughed field in a car with a basket of eggs and a sack of spuds![]()
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I see @jmp49 answered that in post 20.But there’s a “ORT” at the end of the name.
A hungry farmer who was going home to egg on chips.who the hell would want to go across a ploughed field in a car with a basket of eggs and a sack of spuds![]()
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A bit like most of the roads round here are now then.I gather that most rural French roads were little more than mud tracks back in the 1940s.
"Whilst wearing a top hat" was the description I read.Yes,with a basket of eggs on the back seat,unbroken after the trip,very long suspension travel.
I'd get a H van instead, transit sized, weird corrigated pressed body, front wheel drive so really low loading area.A bit like most of the roads round here are now then.
Best I get myself a 2CV.![]()
so how would you get out if you were stupid with enough one roadWhat if you had just stolen them and the farmer had blocked the only road out with his tractor?
ban the bomb sign and flowers on it and a schoolteacher springs to mindA bit like most of the roads round here are now then.
Best I get myself a 2CV.![]()
Antique Electric of mid Wales ( not sure if I have the title right ) on TV discovery (?) have recently turned one in to an EV .. seems it went like the clappers and steered like a dream after they had put in individually adjustable s suspension dampersI'd get a H van instead, transit sized, weird corrigated pressed body, front wheel drive so really low loading area.
The downsides, flat out at 50mph, crappy old citroen ds/freigate motor with passive cooling and about 35hp, or a asthmatic slug of a diesel and a 3 speed box, and incredibly tail happy in the wet when unladen and braking.
I have a early split screen one I stashed years ago with no engine that needs massive amount of rust repair by now, I was going to bodyswap the shell onto a rover v8 classic to make a mad 4x4 offroad van without the terrible downsides, but when we took the rover shell off, the whole chassis was rotted out bad and there ended that insanity...
Antique Electric of mid Wales ( not sure if I have the title right ) on TV discovery (?) have recently turned one in to an EV
Yes that him and the programmeThat would be Richard "Moggy" Morgan and Vintage Voltage.
Any self-respecting French farmer, really.who the hell would want to go across a ploughed field in a car with a basket of eggs and a sack of spuds![]()
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A few years back i was trail riding ( m/c) with some french friends in the Pyrenees and were about an hour from the nearest road when ,on rounding a corner, we met a shepherd sitting by his 2cv keeping an eye on his sheep. had a chat and he told us that he did it every day . What a job/way of life ?Any self-respecting French farmer, really.
It's a 'Rite of Passage' thing, a bit of a tribal initiation ceremony, I suppose .
you obviously never met my market gardener uncles...they used one of the first toyota 4x4 though , even to this day we joke that charlie used to lock it in the middle of the field whilst we were cutting cabbage ...ahh you never know who might be aboutwho the hell would want to go across a ploughed field in a car with a basket of eggs and a sack of spuds![]()
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Now, since you have chosen to mention Renault Estafettes, I can very reliably inform you that they are exceptionally lovely things to own and drive, and buzz along extremely well on account of the Ford Brazil short stroke engine.The last ones,could this be another Simca? A very smart Estafette.View attachment 511549View attachment 511550View attachment 511551View attachment 511552View attachment 511553View attachment 511554View attachment 511548
Yep, a Simca Aronde 9, my '56 Massey Harris Pony tractor uses a engine originally designed for the Aronde 9, and I've seen the insides of the engine block sadly after the first engine I had threw a rod through the crankcase wall immediately on arriving at my house. Spare partially siezed engine it came wiht had some snails evicted from the sump and got a shed rebuild and is still running fine 10+ years later though. Later ones like the P60 got a 5 bearing journal crank in place of the weak 3 bearing one like mine. Wonder why...The last ones,could this be another Simca?
Simca also made lathes, as I recall, and very good ones too.Yep, a Simca Aronde 9, my '56 Massey Harris Pony tractor uses a engine originally designed for the Aronde 9, and I've seen the insides of the engine block sadly after the first engine I had threw a rod through the crankcase wall immediately on arriving at my house. Spare partially siezed engine it came wiht had some snails evicted from the sump and got a shed rebuild and is still running fine 10+ years later though. Later ones like the P60 got a 5 bearing journal crank in place of the weak 3 bearing one like mine. Wonder why...
You can buy this one if you want to skirt crank failure
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