Fly tipped steel plate, 1000 x 1500 x 15mm

[Matchless]

if you get pulled up on the way home just say you found them magnet fishing, don't forget to have a magnet with you, one of those extending £1.00 ones should do,

 

[Screwdriver]

You seem to be arguing with yourself.
"It's theft and it's wrong.. but if they were near me I'd take them and show you all".

You also seem quite intent on trying to lose friends on here at the moment. Lockdown or not, wind it in please, every thread you get involved with seems to go downhill quite rapidly.

WTF!!

Seriously? You can't see the difference between discussing a point of law and the morality of picking something up that's been "abandoned"?

I am a professional skip dipper, I make it my business to understand the legalities of "recycling" found materials. However I am not a hypocrite so while I might be as "normal" as anyone else on here who would be off on their toes with it, I'm not going to kid myself it is perfectly legal for the (many) reasons I have already stated.

So you're after me too then? I honestly can't see why you would single me out in this thread. It's probably confirmation bias on your part and not reading my posts in the light of cold logic.

Discussing the formal legalities of a situation and still being prepared to do it anyway is entirely self consistent.

 

[Seadog]

Its on Wikipedia

That's the States. What relevance does it have here?

 

[MBB]

Read it properly three paragraphs common law in England last sentence,
property or chattel which has left the possession of its rightful owner without having directly entered the possession of another person. Property can be considered lost, mislaid or abandoned depending on the circumstances under which it is found by the next party who obtains its possession.

There is an old saying that possession is nine-tenths of the law, perhaps dating back centuries. This means that in most cases, the possessor of a piece of property is its rightful owner without evidence to the contrary. More colloquially, this may be called finders, keepers. The contradiction to this principle is theft by finding, which may occur if conversion occurs after finding someone else's property.

The rights of a finder of such property are determined in part by the status in which it is found. Because these classifications have developed under the common law of England, they turn on nuanced distinctions. The general rule attaching to the three types of property may be summarized as: A finder of property acquires no rights in mislaid property, is entitled to possession of lost property against everyone except the true owner, and is entitled to keep abandoned property.[1] This rule varies by jurisdiction.[2]

 

[Seadog]

All of the text you posted says to me USA, so why would I go off and read the link?

 

[MBB]

This was not a link it was the first three paragraphs in the article.

 

[RaceDiagnostics]

I sent the pics to a mate in the Fife council roads department, he said take them, not sure that's official approval but still leaves me with a significant issue of how the hell to lift them. Don't see any way I could do it on my own.

Before taking any further I will go over with some string tomorrow and check for flatness.

 

[northwest]

Don't see any way I could do it on my own.

I have a mate with a HIAB. Sorry, no help to you at all I know, but I am just indicating that if I had found them (unlikely around here) I would already have them.
Flattening them is not actually that hard if you can get them up in the air a couple of foot. Just takes time, patience and a bit of heat.

 

[Screwdriver]

Wouldn't it be easier to fit some wheels to it and just tow it?

 

[mr haynes]

That's the States. What relevance does it have here?

Engerlund the 51st state?

 

[bourbon]

the road plates we have at work are bent like a banana. Driving forklifts over them will do that. They are to cover pot holes the company won't do anything about. If we decide it's getting too rough, we just flip them over and bend em the other way!

 

[Screwdriver]

the road plates we have at work are bent like a banana. Driving forklifts over them will do that. They are to cover pot holes the company won't do anything about. If we decide it's getting too rough, we just flip them over and bend em the other way!

Big thick plate like that is a perfect candidate for flame straightening.

 

[mrsbruce]

Read it properly three paragraphs common law in England last sentence,
property or chattel which has left the possession of its rightful owner without having directly entered the possession of another person. Property can be considered lost, mislaid or abandoned depending on the circumstances under which it is found by the next party who obtains its possession.

There is an old saying that possession is nine-tenths of the law, perhaps dating back centuries. This means that in most cases, the possessor of a piece of property is its rightful owner without evidence to the contrary. More colloquially, this may be called finders, keepers. The contradiction to this principle is theft by finding, which may occur if conversion occurs after finding someone else's property.

The rights of a finder of such property are determined in part by the status in which it is found. Because these classifications have developed under the common law of England, they turn on nuanced distinctions. The general rule attaching to the three types of property may be summarized as: A finder of property acquires no rights in mislaid property, is entitled to possession of lost property against everyone except the true owner, and is entitled to keep abandoned property.[1] This rule varies by jurisdiction.[2]

You have to be careful regarding quoting English law. Scotland does have its own legal system, and laws. Especially surrounding common law, and also that stealing from the Queen thing, something to do with Scotland being sovereign, etc.

 

[gaz1]

like here I don't think so they couldn't even nick the 10 foot lengths and there's 2 lots of old sidings hidden in the undergrowth a mile of track and that's gone nowhereeven I cant nick it and its next to my house

get it near the fence make a hole then pull it through then stick on a dolly and roll it home

 

[Munkul]

I sent the pics to a mate in the Fife council roads department, he said take them, not sure that's official approval but still leaves me with a significant issue of how the hell to lift them. Don't see any way I could do it on my own.

Before taking any further I will go over with some string tomorrow and check for flatness.

I think you've done the right thing, those plates could only rightfully be there if they belonged to the highways dept. If they are anyone else's at all, even if they belong to the owner of the field on the other side, they appear to be fly tipped.

I can't even think why a farmer would dump those plates there, they aren't really any use where they are, and a sensible farmer would have left them on the right side of his own fence... certainly not left them begging to be taken!

Only other thing is, they could have been TWOC'ed and dumped already for some reason, in which case if they're traceable at all, you'll be in hot water with the police.

3-4 guys could lift those plates into a van or trailer no bother, they aren't that huge.

 

[sardine]

I had a big road plate here with the old style of chequer plate pattern on it, probably 3/8" thick and its right that the stuff is as bent as a donkeys hind leg, I never found any use for wobbly plate, it was certainly useless for a bench, personally I think its only good for weighing in.

 

[Parm]

I sent the pics to a mate in the Fife council roads department, he said take them, not sure that's official approval but still leaves me with a significant issue of how the hell to lift them. Don't see any way I could do it on my own.

Before taking any further I will go over with some string tomorrow and check for flatness.

you could start another thread and make enquiries as to how they can be moved.

Im sure some advice would be offered

 

[RaceDiagnostics]

I'm going to have to wait till the lockdown starts to lift a bit.

 

[brightspark]

I'm going to have to wait till the lockdown starts to lift a bit.

and by then someone else might have lifted them

 

[gaz1]

I sent the pics to a mate in the Fife council roads department, he said take them, not sure that's official approval but still leaves me with a significant issue of how the hell to lift them. Don't see any way I could do it on my own.

Before taking any further I will go over with some string tomorrow and check for flatness.

you have no imaginaton on moving equiment

lift a corner up wedge something there your a heavy weight stand on it

if we can lift big stones we can lift those metal weights easily