Fire stick extinguisher

[Robotstar5]

An interesting fire extinguisher that leaves no mess, the Fire safety stick seems to have been adopted by a lot of big companies.

 

[Screwdriver]

Very impressive.

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Ninety quid, dunno if that's great value I guess it depends what's on fire! The big attraction for me is the sheer portability and therefore the greater chance of it being handy if you're going somewhere. Ideal for motorcycle aficionados. You could pop one in your rucksack at a bike meet and be a real hero!

Very tempting....

 

[sako243]

I did pick up one for the 6x6. Being a big petrol V8 makes me slightly more nervous of fires than the diesel lumps I normally drive. Given it's a truck cab there's no space so this was very appealing. Actually would fit perfectly onto the B pillar behind the seat belt and be easy to access and not get in the way.

 

[Turbo]

Ok for carrying in a vehicle I guess and better than nothing in an emergency.
But you have to get too close to the fire for it to be effective so I can see an inexperienced user getting injured trying to use it.
With a water, foam or powder extinguisher you can stand well back from the fire and control it.
@The_Yellow_Ardvark - any opinions?

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Ok for carrying in a vehicle I guess and better than nothing in an emergency.
But you have to get too close to the fire for it to be effective so I can see an inexperienced user getting injured trying to use it.
With a water, foam or powder extinguisher you can stand well back from the fire and control it.
@The_Yellow_Ardvark - any opinions?

This again.
Buy a unit that is bs, eu etc approved.

 

[Mick Annick]

This again.
Buy a unit that is bs, eu etc approved.

Thread drift, but I’ll be in the UK later this year, recommendations for a couple of CO2 extinguishers for the workshop please Ardy?

I tried asking dad who worked for Pyrene / Chubb for 40 years but he’s getting on a bit and out of touch

 

[Guzrik]

Ok for carrying in a vehicle I guess and better than nothing in an emergency.
But you have to get too close to the fire for it to be effective so I can see an inexperienced user getting injured trying to use it.
With a water, foam or powder extinguisher you can stand well back from the fire and control it.
@The_Yellow_Ardvark - any opinions?

Indeed nice to have in the car if it doesn't get damaged by frost?

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Indeed nice to have in the car if it doesn't get damaged by frost?

Too small for any car fire.

Smallest size advised is a 1kg dry ABC powder.

 

[Guzrik]

Too small for any car fire.

Smallest size advised is a 1kg dry ABC powder.

Powder makes your car rust?
Foam is better but freezes, apparently now there are foam ones that don't, but they're expensive and have short shelf life.
Luckily my car doesn't catch fire every year.

 

[Turbo]

Powder makes your car rust?
Foam is better but freezes, apparently now there are foam ones that don't, but they're expensive and have short shelf life.
Luckily my car doesn't catch fire every year.

I think if your car is on fire the last thing you worry about is rust!

As a race and rally marshal I've had a lot of training in dealing with car fires.

Normal practice is to use the powder one to put out the fire unless it is a liquid fire, then you use the foam.

For under bonnet fire you either spray the powder from underneath the engine or crack open the bonnet and spray through the gap. Never open the bonnet fully as you are giving the fire more oxygen.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Powder makes your car rust?
Foam is better but freezes, apparently now there are foam ones that don't, but they're expensive and have short shelf life.
Luckily my car doesn't catch fire every year.

Powder does not rust your car, the damp it sucks up will.

All foams have a freezing point. No, the lower freezing points one are not more expensives. Just a lower rating. They have the same 5 year life,

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

I think if your car is on fire the last thing you worry about is rust!

As a race and rally marshal I've had a lot of training in dealing with car fires.

Normal practice is to use the powder one to put out the fire unless it is a liquid fire, then you use the foam.

For under bonnet fire you either spray the powder from underneath the engine or crack open the bonnet and spray through the gap. Never open the bonnet fully as you are giving the fire more oxygen.

 

[Robotstar5]

I think if your car is on fire the last thing you worry about is rust!

As a race and rally marshal I've had a lot of training in dealing with car fires.

Normal practice is to use the powder one to put out the fire unless it is a liquid fire, then you use the foam.

For under bonnet fire you either spray the powder from underneath the engine or crack open the bonnet and spray through the gap. Never open the bonnet fully as you are giving the fire more oxygen.

I did a fair bit of training when doing rally rescue or recovery, we had to carry 2 dry powder and 2 foam extinguishers on each vehicle.

We were practicing at RAF Marham one weekend, there was an old car with a few sleepers soaked in fuel so it could be put out and easily re-lit for the next person, there was one experienced guy in full kit with an extinguisher "on guard" in case something went wrong and someone went up, once the training was over the "guard" was asked to put the fire out for the last time, his extinguisher didn't work no problem said the RAF guy organising the event and made a phone call to the control tower, a couple of minutes later one of the airfield crash rescue trucks turned up and dumped a lot of water from the roof mounted monitor onto the car.

 

[addjunkie]

Thread drift, but I’ll be in the UK later this year, recommendations for a couple of CO2 extinguishers for the workshop please Ardy?

I tried asking dad who worked for Pyrene / Chubb for 40 years but he’s getting on a bit and out of touch

I worked for Chubb for a couple of years in the early 90s when I first quit going to sea.

Powder does not rust your car, the damp it sucks up will.

All foams have a freezing point. No, the lower freezing points one are not more expensives. Just a lower rating. They have the same 5 year life,

Powder is hateful stuff to clean up if it is used inside. Once saw a boat where a powder extinguisher had been used…still been found 5 years later.

What type of foam are they using these days in extinguishers synthetic FFFPs since the AFFF ban is comming. Is there also a plan to ban it in the big fixed systems that are using AFFF.

 

[Screwdriver]

I can only remember one time when I have used a fire extinguisher in anger, in the canteen at the BBC. Used to pop down there for a smoke (err, yeah, few years ago this was!) and one of the bins was itself smoking furiously, like as if it was just about to burst into flames. I remember the shocked look on the faces of those present and the fact that everyone in the room froze solid.

I strolled over to the wall, picked up a fire extinguisher and filled up the bin with it. Then just wandered off. These days you'd be offered PTSD counselling and told to fill out a report before getting fired for not having the correct up-to-date training....

 

[indy4x]

Is there an issue with powder extinguishers 'packing down' when stored in a vehicle?

Seem to remember something about race car systems where all the bumps and vibrations packed the powder down over time which reduced their effectiveness?

I'm assuming the same applied to your normal powder extinguishers?

 

[Erie Fred]

I can only remember one time when I have used a fire extinguisher in anger, in the canteen at the BBC. Used to pop down there for a smoke (err, yeah, few years ago this was!) and one of the bins was itself smoking furiously, like as if it was just about to burst into flames. I remember the shocked look on the faces of those present and the fact that everyone in the room froze solid.

I strolled over to the wall, picked up a fire extinguisher and filled up the bin with it. Then just wandered off. These days you'd be offered PTSD counselling and told to fill out a report before getting fired for not having the correct up-to-date training....

...and this ^^^ is the best thing to do, remain calm.
Determined and expedient, but not running around like an animal.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

I worked for Chubb for a couple of years in the early 90s when I first quit going to sea.

Powder is hateful stuff to clean up if it is used inside. Once saw a boat where a powder extinguisher had been used…still been found 5 years later.

What type of foam are they using these days in extinguishers synthetic FFFPs since the AFFF ban is comming. Is there also a plan to ban it in the big fixed systems that are using AFFF.

At least hey had a boat.

The foam ban.
The ban on the the toxic foam is rolling forward.
The Eco Green foams are nw the norm being fitted.
Plus a big drive to only fit foams, in the correct place.
Same with powders.
It is drive I agree with.

Is there an issue with powder extinguishers 'packing down' when stored in a vehicle?

Seem to remember something about race car systems where all the bumps and vibrations packed the powder down over time which reduced their effectiveness?

I'm assuming the same applied to your normal powder extinguishers?

No more than normal, less I think, due to the motions of the car.