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As I have said many times - I am not against people having their own solar! Makes sense with the current prices.Theres no figure manipulation involved if you get your own solar or wind generator. You said your father might expect a 10yr payback (seems pessimistic but hey ho) on an array, or shorter DIY. Good luck building a garden fission reactor at all, let alone with a sub 10yr payback.
My home solar is a microcosm of a bigger array. Might as well make hay when the sun shines, whether it's on my little roof, the roof of a big factory or some marginal ground.As I have said many times - I am not against people having their own solar! Makes sense with the current prices.
We used to have a nice balanced grid back in the 80s to 2010 - and prices weren't so bad - I wonder what changedMy home solar is a microcosm of a bigger array. Might as well make hay when the sun shines, whether it's on my little roof, the roof of a big factory or some marginal ground.
If we get to a point where, when it's sunny, the grid is so overstocked, it can't take anymore solar, and by dropping prices to zero, or below zero, we can't soak up oversupply effectively, fair enough. But, grid bottlenecks aside, we're not there yet. I also don't suppose we'll get to that point either or at least not for very long. Ingenious people will see near zero or negative energy prices and do ingenious things with it. Stash it in high energy raw materials, like aluminium, or AN fertilizer. Or even hydrogen. Who knows.
In the mean time, yes, we ought to have better supported standby gas turbines and have invested in nuclear too. But it's not an either or, it's everything and more!
That's another thing I hate about all these windmills. Nearly all made abroad
Well, for a start we used to get 40% or more of our electric from coal, thats probably the biggest change...We used to have a nice balanced grid back in the 80s to 2010 - and prices weren't so bad - I wonder what changed
Lots of things.We used to have a nice balanced grid back in the 80s to 2010 - and prices weren't so bad - I wonder what changed
That is fairly recent. The vast majority are built in Denmark.Except the thousands produced in Hull?
No. Swap the coal for nuclear which doesn't put out co2.Well, for a start we used to get 40% or more of our electric from coal, thats probably the biggest change...
Would you be suggesting we go back to that?
That is fairly recent. The vast majority are built in Denmark.
Oh in a factory owned by Siemens by the wayI actually give up
It works for some people.: https://www.newscientist.com/articl...han-half-of-the-worlds-new-coal-power-plants/Well, for a start we used to get 40% or more of our electric from coal, thats probably the biggest change...
Would you be suggesting we go back to that?
Well you've got those super fit guys that sit inside the nacelle , climb up and back every day so they can brake the turbine , change the gears , cant it and stop it working if there is too much wind power .We (the previous company I was at) fitted out wind turbines in Merseyside about ten years ago, was a decent contract for a small firm and kept a good few guys employed. I bet there is a fair few highly skilled jobs over here now involved with those turbines.
I can imagine a retired old fisherman in a old wooden boat, rowing between turbines, climbing up and turning them on/off. The old Hovis advert music coming from the radioWell you've got those super fit guys that sit inside the nacelle , climb up and back every day so they can brake the turbine , change the gears , cant it and stop it working if there is too much wind power .
That's a bit difficult on our local land based array of 14 or so turbines ... the guys here ride old put to pastures pit ponies to get to work .I can imagine a retired old fisherman in a old wooden boat, rowing between turbines, climbing up and turning them on/off. The old Hovis advert music coming from the radio
Not sure that’s how it works in reality, the smart grid taking advantage of cheap rates and a gas knob being turned down is a little less romantic, but that’s progress hey.
That is fairly recent. The vast majority are built in Denmark.
I care! I would much rather see jobs in Britain! Wouldn't you?Who really cares. It is a means to an end. No nuclear made in UK, either. He’s just plugging away at everything negative he can come up with. As per Kayos, we might as well give up taking amny notice of posters like that. They have no credibility at all.
Only those that cannot do their own maths or read and understand for themselves on the subject - or whatever— will follow him with their heads stuck in the sand!