I'm just not keen on the idea of hydrogen...seems bit crazy to me but maybe they can make it safe somehow.
Not sure hydrogen is going to take off
DVLA uses a points system to assess historic status. You have to score 8 points out of 14 to retain historic status and 5 must come from an unmodified shell or chassis.Understandable - it's considerably modified and not an original historic vehicle - its modified vehicle.
If he'd converted it 30 yrs ago though . . .
Funny enough, wasn’t the first Tesla a Lotus Elise where they took out the petrol engine and put in an electric motor.I've been thinking of buying an early tesla and converting it to a big American V8.
I always think of the Hindenburg.I'm just not keen on the idea of hydrogen...seems bit crazy to me but maybe they can make it safe somehow.
ISTR doing this a lot back in the day. To let the water out.I seem to recall the problem was 2 holes drilled in the boot floor........as I said it's all BS
Energy cost to compress it to 700 bar, i think it is now starting to sink in that hydrogen will never become viable for mass transport.AJL,
hydrogen storage is only one of the many and serious problems with hydrogen.
As the only acceptable to government hydrogen is that made by green methods, the cost is far too high and unlikley to come down, that and the energy needed to make the hydrogen is morer than it gives off.
Alec
Energy cost to compress it to 700 bar, i think it is now starting to sink in that hydrogen will never become viable for mass transport.
A simple shutoff valve costs hundreds of euro's compressors a lot more.
Similar, albeit not as strict, in Belgium.here classic reg vehicles are only allowed to be driven on Sundays except for shows.....
and then not outside the county where reg....
it'll happen, the scumbags will make u pay for anything else....
But new cars are worth 120 billion so I wouldn't be so sure.A while back the classic car industry was worth over £8bn to the UK economy so I think it will be here to stay for a bit!
Well yes, you lose when you make it, but that's no different to electricity, or petrol even. The point might be that you could use excess energy (when the wind blows or when the nuclear reactor would otherwise throttle back), make some go-gas to be used when the wind doesn't blow, or even better, when your driving your zero emmissions car. Burning it in combustion chambers is lossier still than converting it to electricity to run a motor.AJL,
hydrogen storage is only one of the many and serious problems with hydrogen.
As the only acceptable to government hydrogen is that made by green methods, the cost is far too high and unlikley to come down, that and the energy needed to make the hydrogen is morer than it gives off.
Alec
Not quite as its worded on the DVLA site - I would suggest chucking the engine, fuel system, tank etc, and adding a motor, batteries, cables, controllers etc would be considered "substantial".DVLA uses a points system to assess historic status. You have to score 8 points out of 14 to retain historic status and 5 must come from an unmodified shell or chassis.
You only lose 1 point for the engine, so an electric motor mounted to the original transmission in an otherwise stock car would score 13/14 points.
So based on the system, it's not understandable that a historic vehicle would lose it's identity due to an EV conversion.
I believe this case involved the DVLA claiming that the shell was now modified because a hole for cabling had been drilled and they wouldn't back down.
I'm sure if you were to thoroughly examine any classic vehicle that you would find that it had extra holes and bits which had been welded up slightly differently to how it left the factory.
There was a thread on retrorides somewhere where the minutes from a sit down meeting with vosa were detailed and at that time they said that drilling holes in non structural areas (as defined by MOT) wasn't classed as modification and that with a chassis, you could weld extra bits in or remove unused bracketry (like old engine mounts) without issue as long as the original structural fabric of the main chassis remained.