Chinesium is useful

  1. Hood

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    Ha ha nope, not at all.
    Things used to come in from China and Hongkong without charges but these days are long gone.
     
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    Im not sure i still think reworking those is more cost effective. Given cost or heat treat and what not.
    I bet the spindle is properly machined decent bearing's sorted.
     
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    Probably because the dollar has become so strong against the pound people are buying less from the States. might have reduced the customs workload dealing with US exports allowing them to focus more on the China/Hong Kong stuff.
     
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    I want to see someone build a hogging beast
     
  7. pressbrake1

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    The cartridge spindle seems ok but the stand alone seems horrible standard issue chinesium.
    A spindle isnt hard to make but you’re going to need a cylindrical grinder to get any real accuracies and to machine nicely after hardening
     
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    And head of all of this you need to find someone willing to heat treat small parts at a cost that seems reasonable.
     
  9. Hood

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    Nah, it has been going on for quite a while now, never used to get stung from Hongkong but one day a parcel turned up. They had ignored the declared value and looked inside, found the guys flyer, looked on his website and got the prices and charged me accordingly, bleeding barstewards that they were especially as I had done a deal with the guy and got them 1/3 cheaper than his listed prices :D
    Have been charged VAT and handling charges on everything since then, maybe they just don't like me :D
     
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    Its nonsense they've let China take over most of our Industry, now we are china dependable we are charged for the pleasure.
    Nice sweet pill for the northerners.
     
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    In this video on a fadal clean up you can see the fabricated body.
    Looks a viable project to build something on the same scale ish
     
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    Looked at this afternoon interesting
    Then he makes knives. Grrrhhh!!!!
     
  13. Hood

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    The base of my Chiron is fabricated, then again the the column travels on it so only really the X that is welded up as the Y and column are cast.

    Edit
    Having said that the table also sits on the welded base so....
     
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  14. pressbrake1

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    Fadals were not bad for budget machines. Liked a bellville washer in the drawbar though
     
  15. Hood

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    The Chiron has belleville washers but not that many and I was surprised at the amount. Couldn't work out how it could clamp so well as it did then I got my hands on some drawings and it uses precision ball bearings and a hardened sleeve to lock the drawbar in place. It is very tight tolerances for the adjustment but after 30 years it was still perfect.
     
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    Here is a pic of the drawbar, because of the design it means relatively low pressure air can operate it instead of needing hydraulics.

    ScreenHunter_3267 Nov. 16 21.35.jpg
     
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  17. pressbrake1

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    What meant was The washers seemed to fail regularly, I was always changing them. All set correctly. Its to long ago to remember if a modified setting was released
     
  18. Hood

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    Ah ok, sorry I misunderstood :D
    I was thinking they maybe just used hydraulics to hold clamped.
     
  19. pressbrake1

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    Where do you work, didn’t think there was anything left in our forsaken county?
     
  20. gaz1

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    ive looked hard enough for making a spindle for my machine but many quote use an r8 system instead

    i have bought everything for the 3mt spindle already but upgraded to the r8 system
     
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