Jbo2231
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Hey,
Wondered if anyone could give me some Input as to which to go for as I'm struggling to make a decision. Sorry for the mammoth post, wanted to give you as much info about my thoughts as I could so hopefully you can help me out.
I have tried to thoroughly search the forums and apologise if I have missed a similar thread. However I think the Bohler is relatively new to the UK market which might explain there only being a single thread on it.
I recently started my journey in to the land of welding and I'm looking to get set up with a unit that will allow me to weld mild steel car panels and fabricate brackets etc for an engine conversion (nothing structural like a subframe or anything stupid like that). It will also be used for some general maintenance around the house. The fence is in need of some TLC and I am always building something.
I would like the ability to stick aluminium together. It does not have to be neat, it is not structural and will mainly be used to make some custom fluid reservoirs for non-essential fluids etc.
My understanding is that I would really want an AC Tig unit for aluminium? From my reading aluminium needs to be 'cleaned' during the weld as the oxidation melts at a far higher temp to the actual aluminium? Please correct me if I am wrong. But i hope i can get away with using some thicker Aluminium and MIG welding it?
I would also like the ability to TIG weld stainless to do some custom exhaust work. This is obviously well outside my skill range at the moment having never even TIG welded, but I'll get there.
In short I believe I am after a multi process machine. I like to buy once and buy right. I have done the few years of trying to get away with cheap tools and I am well and truly over that.
Having done some research I looked at the GYS multipearl 200.4xl and then a chap called Tom at a certain online welding shop (not sure if I am allowed to post links) suggested a very appealing machine, the Bohler uranos 2000. I think Tom might actually be on here.
My questions:
- Is the bohler worth the extra £250. It does add a pulse option to the TiG side of things. Anyone able to share how much of a difference this makes?
- the bohler claims to be best in class for aluminimum Mig welding. Is this supported in any way by some evidence or anybodys experience?
- wire feed rollers. Is more always better? My understanding would be if you were working further away from the unit with a longer torch you may need a 4 roller system, but am I likely to notice the difference between the 4 roller gys and 2 roller bohler in a DIY/serious hobby situation? A 3m torch is fine for me, no need to be up a ladder welding 5m off the floor.
- user interface. I managed to find 1 video demonstrating the interface on the GYS and it didnt look too appealing. I am sure once you get familar it would be easy. I found a video of the Bohler and its user interface looks lovely. The GYS seems to expect you to know where the setting you are looking for is. It removes everything else from the screen and instead of a list of options it will cycle through them.. does anyone have any experience on how simple the GYS is to use?
-gys comes with a 2 year warranty, bohler with a 3 year. Is it worth worrying about the difference? I would hope any major flaws with a new machine would have surfaced by 2 years and that hopefully they should be solid reliable units at their price point.
-not too worried about portability. I want to be able to move it around my workshop and out to my garage which is 3m away from my workshop. I dont think there is much difference between the 2 for me even though the GYS is a substantially larger unit. I will only be using 5kg reels. So anything under 30 to 35kg is fine.
I would appreciate any thoughts people in the know have about the above.
Thanks!
Wondered if anyone could give me some Input as to which to go for as I'm struggling to make a decision. Sorry for the mammoth post, wanted to give you as much info about my thoughts as I could so hopefully you can help me out.
I have tried to thoroughly search the forums and apologise if I have missed a similar thread. However I think the Bohler is relatively new to the UK market which might explain there only being a single thread on it.
I recently started my journey in to the land of welding and I'm looking to get set up with a unit that will allow me to weld mild steel car panels and fabricate brackets etc for an engine conversion (nothing structural like a subframe or anything stupid like that). It will also be used for some general maintenance around the house. The fence is in need of some TLC and I am always building something.
I would like the ability to stick aluminium together. It does not have to be neat, it is not structural and will mainly be used to make some custom fluid reservoirs for non-essential fluids etc.
My understanding is that I would really want an AC Tig unit for aluminium? From my reading aluminium needs to be 'cleaned' during the weld as the oxidation melts at a far higher temp to the actual aluminium? Please correct me if I am wrong. But i hope i can get away with using some thicker Aluminium and MIG welding it?
I would also like the ability to TIG weld stainless to do some custom exhaust work. This is obviously well outside my skill range at the moment having never even TIG welded, but I'll get there.
In short I believe I am after a multi process machine. I like to buy once and buy right. I have done the few years of trying to get away with cheap tools and I am well and truly over that.
Having done some research I looked at the GYS multipearl 200.4xl and then a chap called Tom at a certain online welding shop (not sure if I am allowed to post links) suggested a very appealing machine, the Bohler uranos 2000. I think Tom might actually be on here.
My questions:
- Is the bohler worth the extra £250. It does add a pulse option to the TiG side of things. Anyone able to share how much of a difference this makes?
- the bohler claims to be best in class for aluminimum Mig welding. Is this supported in any way by some evidence or anybodys experience?
- wire feed rollers. Is more always better? My understanding would be if you were working further away from the unit with a longer torch you may need a 4 roller system, but am I likely to notice the difference between the 4 roller gys and 2 roller bohler in a DIY/serious hobby situation? A 3m torch is fine for me, no need to be up a ladder welding 5m off the floor.
- user interface. I managed to find 1 video demonstrating the interface on the GYS and it didnt look too appealing. I am sure once you get familar it would be easy. I found a video of the Bohler and its user interface looks lovely. The GYS seems to expect you to know where the setting you are looking for is. It removes everything else from the screen and instead of a list of options it will cycle through them.. does anyone have any experience on how simple the GYS is to use?
-gys comes with a 2 year warranty, bohler with a 3 year. Is it worth worrying about the difference? I would hope any major flaws with a new machine would have surfaced by 2 years and that hopefully they should be solid reliable units at their price point.
-not too worried about portability. I want to be able to move it around my workshop and out to my garage which is 3m away from my workshop. I dont think there is much difference between the 2 for me even though the GYS is a substantially larger unit. I will only be using 5kg reels. So anything under 30 to 35kg is fine.
I would appreciate any thoughts people in the know have about the above.
Thanks!