future_jack
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I have to keep the new portamig well locked up in the shed so I need to find out what the best locks I can get are within reason.
Look forward to responses.
Look forward to responses.
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English Steve
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As Hitch said, disk type padlocks are good and some are 'insurance approved'.
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disk type padlock it is then. I wonder will the welder be insured now under house contents. I suppose a phone call is required.
I need to ask them about being covered for DIY electrical work aswell. ie. Wiring the shed for 16 amp.
Anyknow know if this is usually ok?
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Officially DIY wiring is positively NOT OK for insurance purposes. Unofficially, if the installation was already there before Jan 2006 (or was it 2005) then you don't need to do anything. ie if it looks like it was already there ...
To be honest, you will be OK running the Portamig 185 on an ordinary 3 pin plug for most applications, just not upto it's maximum. Make sure it's a good quality plug though. My blue 16 amp plug and socket are still on the bench awaiting fitting, and I believe a few others are in the same situation (Malcolm?).
To be honest, you will be OK running the Portamig 185 on an ordinary 3 pin plug for most applications, just not upto it's maximum. Make sure it's a good quality plug though. My blue 16 amp plug and socket are still on the bench awaiting fitting, and I believe a few others are in the same situation (Malcolm?).
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Any particular brand of 3 pin I should be looking out for?
before buying any type of lock, check out captain cropper on youtube - this guy is a securty legend and has exposed the shoddy industry standard in motorcycle locks and chains which retail at hundreds of pounds and include bold claims that are, in fact, utter rubbish.
ALMAX chains are the only way to go to secure anything valuable.
ALMAX chains are the only way to go to secure anything valuable.
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I used to keep my welder chained down.
With regard to being covered under insurance, id deffinatly check, a lot wont cover tools above £XX.
Im with Lloyds TSB, and after a few phonecalls they assured me that any tools in an adjoining garage were covered, even if it was numerous items at £250+ a pop.
With regard to being covered under insurance, id deffinatly check, a lot wont cover tools above £XX.
Im with Lloyds TSB, and after a few phonecalls they assured me that any tools in an adjoining garage were covered, even if it was numerous items at £250+ a pop.
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C**tish cause you want to tell your mates you have a wicked welder but at the expense of it's security.
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Just checked out that on youtube, did you see the size of the bolt cutters and cable cutters he had?
Nothing is secure, theres always a way of getting round it.
Theres little thats a match for a gas torch or a cordless grinder
Iv done a fair few S/S clasps heps etc, for that very reason, If theres one thing that winds a pikey up with a gas torch is a nice little S/S cover
If you buy a BIG enough welder, and take the castors off, you can sleep at night 
The last thing I think they'll take from my workshop is 500kg of wheel-less BOC ADR , especially as theyd have to drag it through two doorways first
With the others, lock boxes and a disc lock. If it looks too good its advertising and not attracting attention helps lots. The doors can be braced internally with some box and socketing.
I worked at a bike shop that was forever having someone trying to break in, we had 1/4" plate lock boxes, safe in the concrete floor, steel reinforcing behind the doors. The last time we were burgled, they cut a hole through the roof, and upstairs floor too.
Or you could just alarm mine the place, with live cartridges . Works for me, very illegal, stopped a pikey in their tracts at my workshop last year, we know because we seen the red trail
The last thing I think they'll take from my workshop is 500kg of wheel-less BOC ADR , especially as theyd have to drag it through two doorways first
With the others, lock boxes and a disc lock. If it looks too good its advertising and not attracting attention helps lots. The doors can be braced internally with some box and socketing.
I worked at a bike shop that was forever having someone trying to break in, we had 1/4" plate lock boxes, safe in the concrete floor, steel reinforcing behind the doors. The last time we were burgled, they cut a hole through the roof, and upstairs floor too.
Or you could just alarm mine the place, with live cartridges . Works for me, very illegal, stopped a pikey in their tracts at my workshop last year, we know because we seen the red trail
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Hello Future Jack, forget the locks and chains, they cost a fortune and are easily cut by the welder you want to protect. Go to poundland or your local hobbyshop and buy a p.i.r. operated sounder and fit it to the shed. There are some really cheap, very loud, units around nowadays, with a coded keypad that will work on a 9 volt alkaline battery. All my sheds and tiny workshop are fitted with second hand alarm systems, the 4 channel variety that are no longer used in households nowadays, 2 of them are key operated, the other 2 have keypads. I get them gratis from a friend who owns a skip yard and they come out of the recycling bins. The keyed ones had no keys but changing the lock is simple and they are only £2.50 each. The coded ones I decode and reset with new codes, its not rocket science to do. I get all this plus a choice of anything that comes on site as part of the reason that I do work for him, the wages come in handy too now that I am retired. I have a welder/fabricaters paradise to work at, I have metal stocks most newbies could only dream of including yards of screwed rod, tubing, square section, c channel, rsj, ali' steel plate etc. The beauty of it is he loves me for taking it as he saves on the super high landfill fees we have to pay down here. I built myself a wood burning stove for the lounge and he supplies the timber, I built a waste oil burner for my little workshop, he supplies all the waste oil I could ever use plus some diesel from the plant equipment. I only use the central heating for the winter months then only need it on low. So visit your local skip yard or second hand shop and you will get the alarms you need for a pittance. I hope this helps you, Bob. p.s. I wired in a pensioners wireless transmitter to my top shed, where I keep my old motorcycles, the transmitter is fitted in the bedroom so I can sleep soundly at night. (yes it came out of a skip).
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At home, I have an alarm made from various furnace control components:
Limit switches on all the doors, an industrial siren/zenon beacon and a relay to latch the siren on even if the limit switch is opened (by closing door again)
Odd time i have forgotten to turn it off before opening the door scares the hell out of me!
Oh, and a big *** length of 35mm round bar under my bed to bash em with
Limit switches on all the doors, an industrial siren/zenon beacon and a relay to latch the siren on even if the limit switch is opened (by closing door again)
Odd time i have forgotten to turn it off before opening the door scares the hell out of me!
Oh, and a big *** length of 35mm round bar under my bed to bash em with
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My workshop is at the bottom of the garden, but my bedroom faces it. Trouble is, i work overseas half the year, so if somebody does break in I don't really want the wife to go out and confront them, so I just leave a couple of locks on the door.
I spoke to my insurance people when I built the garage and added it to my insurance, extra 20 notes covers it for everything, though the building itself is already covered by house insurance.
I have been advised to keep a detailed list of all the tools and stuff out there, to present to the insurance company should the need arise.
I spoke to my insurance people when I built the garage and added it to my insurance, extra 20 notes covers it for everything, though the building itself is already covered by house insurance.
I have been advised to keep a detailed list of all the tools and stuff out there, to present to the insurance company should the need arise.
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I'll look into this. Great post. I'll get locks aswell anyway for the meantime.
Nobody is going to know what's in the shed but it's just incase someone comes sniffing around the place someday.
Can somebody recommend a specific brand of disc lock? and perhaps an online retailer they have experience with.
Thanks a mill.
