Used to clarify - but not as the entire drawing. One of my very experienced colleagues wouldn't even like that - he would add another view, a section, a break out view, to clarify. He also hates telling a story on a drawing - those long notes some used - everything should be defined by drawing views and dimensions - the idea to make the drawing clear and not open to personal interpretation - it shows clearly what the designer intended. He has often been a little less than complimentary of some of my drawings - much as it annoys me, he's often quite right. Standards are there for a reason - my drawing will work in-house, with our usual supplier, or with a new one who has never seen our equipment.Yes. Perfect.
What are the issues with this being on a drawing? (Not arguing, just asking! Honest!)
This is fascinating, it really is. Thanks so much for this. I now see / understand the point ‘telling a story on a drawing’. I guess ‘less is more’ is the idea?Used to clarify - but not as the entire drawing. One of my very experienced colleagues wouldn't even like that - he would add another view, a section, a break out view, to clarify. He also hates telling a story on a drawing - those long notes some used - everything should be defined by drawing views and dimensions - the idea to make the drawing clear and not open to personal interpretation - it shows clearly what the designer intended. He has often been a little less than complimentary of some of my drawings - much as it annoys me, he's often quite right. Standards are there for a reason - my drawing will work in-house, with our usual supplier, or with a new one who has never seen our equipment.
If a supplier has to ring me up to clarify something - I've failed . . . it happens, but not so often these days We run into the odd issue with stuff being made in America, or us trying to work out American drawings (material specs usually), but given a bit of understanding of their standards, it all translates. I've sat at various desks in a few companies in the USA (as well as Europe) and not had too much trouble - when I used to tell tales on drawings, "stitch" or "tack" weld meant different things in the USA to the UK.
The view pictured, if used on one of our drawings, would mean 0.25mm . . .
I, too, read this as mm and not inch. Americans use inches, do they not?this?
this would tell me its a continuous fillet weld with a 0.25" throat
Is that your drawing?
And that’s why drawings must tell you the unitsI, too, read this as mm and not inch. Americans use inches, do they not?
Is that your drawing?
I tried drawing a new garage and contents. My tools were just rectangular blocks, it
was so complex to draw stuff in that amount of detail above.
I can assure you I've tried and continue to try SketchUp. It absolutely is a CAD program, by definition!
My apologies but I didn't mean perspective, I meant orthographic...it's been a long time since I did technical drawing.
I know it can produce orthographic drawings from a model but I want to work in orthographic views...for example having 4 work windows, 3 views, top, front, side and having a perspective or 3d view in the 4th.
I've tried everything I can see as well as googling a solution but it just doesn't seem to be possible.
Google screenshot of what im used to.
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Yeah it was an American site I nicked the image from and no, we don't use 3d images to fab from, we'd see that sort of detail only on a 2d drawing. Breakouts only for the avoidance of confusion, all our guys are expected to be able to read a 2d drawing properly. (tbh most drawings I see aren't formal enough to have weld details, although they should!)I, too, read this as mm and not inch. Americans use inches, do they not?
Most CAD packages offer view ports below is a design i'm playing with in Fusion. The Red arrow shows the icon to press to get view ports.
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SketchUp doesn't...it's madness.
I can't use fusion because it doesn't make any sense to me....i can only presume all the developers are Mac users...that and it's not free anymore.
You've seen some of my drawings - they used to be, and sometimes still are "fully weld" or "weld all round" . . . no sizes,no lengths, no types. If it was an ultrasonic tank, it would have got "TIG weld inside and out" . . .Yeah it was an American site I nicked the image from and no, we don't use 3d images to fab from, we'd see that sort of detail only on a 2d drawing. Breakouts only for the avoidance of confusion, all our guys are expected to be able to read a 2d drawing properly. (tbh most drawings I see aren't formal enough to have weld details, although they should!)
Not sure there's a standard form for a start stop, think you'd just have to annotate it separately.