This is the exact same reason I want to learn the "hard way" with rods and a cheap buzz box. If I can learn and learn well with something hard to use, then I should have very little problem with better and more expensive gear. Or is my logic flawed? I learned to use a manual typewriter at school to pass my "O" Grade long before I ever used a proper word processor. I'm very much a believer in learn the hard way first, then learn the shortcuts. That way you've got more experience and can cope with things and situations better than you could if you only learned the easy way, if that makes sense. Regards, Ian.