American Chopper senior v junor

[ronan]

Apparently the americans love drama and conflict in their shows, it appears it doesn't matter if that drama is real or not. I know if i were turtle junior and had to suffer turtle senior i would have been long gone.

 

[MattF]

Mike the problem is that 90% of the audience are not enthusiasts so therefor have to be entertained just the way of the world these days I'm afraid.

What happened to good old fashioned informative programmes? The likes of Dibnah, (in his later years), didn't do any of that crap, and they made several series with him.

Apparently the americans love drama and conflict in their shows, it appears it doesn't matter if that drama is real or not.

Our lot are just as bad. Try watching daytime TV sometime and see if you can survive two hours without wanting to hang yourself, (or wanting to kill the pillocks on the box).

 

[ronan]

What happened to good old fashioned informative programmes? The likes of Dibnah, (in his later years), didn't do any of that crap, and they made several series with him.




Our lot are just as bad. Try watching daytime TV sometime and see if you can survive two hours without wanting to hang yourself, (or wanting to kill the pillocks on the box).

you don't mean jeremy kyle do you ? his programs are informative and helpful to the nice people concerned

 

[langy]

No Sean I'm not involved, I got contacted by the producers initially because of my 30 years in the film/tv business [/QUOTE

Didn't know you were involved in the film/tv industry Steve, so did your rod building just start off as a hobby then outside of your normal job....? And ended up taking over.

You got a pm Sean

 

[Magic Rat]

I only just got into watching American Chopper. Not sure what the other programmes mentioned are like or about, I generally don't watch too much TV. I agree about the drama, I don't know what they are trying to achieve by showing some of the obviously well rehearsed tantrums. The episode I watched recently was just getting to a tricky piece of fabrication when for the next 5 mins it focussed on one of the sons visits to the dentist. wtf?!

The other thing with OCC, I might be wrong, but they seem to buy a lot of their frames in which seems a strange thing for a fabrication shop to do, anyone know if there is a reason for that?

I'm not knocking the show by the way it obviously works, but it certainly is frustrating for us non celebrity farbicators.

 

[brightspark]

I only just got into watching American Chopper. Not sure what the other programmes mentioned are like or about, I generally don't watch too much TV. I agree about the drama, I don't know what they are trying to achieve by showing some of the obviously well rehearsed tantrums. The episode I watched recently was just getting to a tricky piece of fabrication when for the next 5 mins it focussed on one of the sons visits to the dentist. wtf?!

The other thing with OCC, I might be wrong, but they seem to buy a lot of their frames in which seems a strange thing for a fabrication shop to do, anyone know if there is a reason for that?

I'm not knocking the show by the way it obviously works, but it certainly is frustrating for us non celebrity farbicators.

yea its cheaper to buy in stock frames and modify them if needed . not all products are worth producing even if u have the gear

 

[ronan]

yea its cheaper to buy in stock frames and modify them if needed . not all products are worth producing even if u have the gear

Yhey bought a lot of their parts , frames , mudguards etc from another chopper builders in the southern states , alabama i think , i can't remember their name. Discovery did a program on them as well and they did have some skilled fabricators.

 

[Robotstar5]

Yhey bought a lot of their parts , frames , mudguards etc from another chopper builders in the southern states , alabama i think , i can't remember their name. Discovery did a program on them as well and they did have some skilled fabricators.

Southern Chopper? filmed at Milwaukee Iron

Just had a look for them, closing end of July link

 

[Angusdog]

To be honest, I watch these programmes sporadically and it sort of got me into welding etc - along the lines of 'if those monkeys can do it, so can I' although they quite quickly devolve into 'I'm a celebrity, look out, look out' in that macho US ******** kind of way. American Chopper, Monster Garage, American Hot Rod etc - they're okay.

And I know some on here have an issue with him, contrast those series with Mark Evans' series - fun to watch, informative and quite a decent portrayal of what it's like to restore a car etc. And let's face it, most people on here are going to have an issue with any programme about welding - you guys could argue until the cows come home about the correct angle to grind a tungsten

 

[T.E.D. Jordan]

Going back to the earlier question I've seen season 3 of the new S vs J. Pm me for details!

I've loved American chopper since day one, I've sat on the flow bike and everything felt like quality. I've seen the liberty bike, the fire bike and the comanche bike in person and they were genuinely impressive. I can definately see why people dont like the show but for me even if some of it is scripted it doesnt take away from the workshops and quality of the work that goes on.

I'll throw another name in here - what does everyone think of Chip Foose? I like the guy personally even though I havn't met him. I didnt like overhauling though, you can't rebuild a car in 7/8 days without overlooking certain things!

Also the latest 2 episodes of Chasing Classic cars has that AMAZING painter that used to work at Boyds - Charlie? He has his own shop (looks awesome) and was comissioned to restore 2 of boyds old rods. He's painted riddler winners I believe, I've alot of respect for him.

Jordan

 

[Robotstar5]

I'll throw another name in here - what does everyone think of Chip Foose? I like the guy personally even though I havn't met him. I didnt like overhauling though, you can't rebuild a car in 7/8 days without overlooking certain things!

Also the latest 2 episodes of Chasing Classic cars has that AMAZING painter that used to work at Boyds - Charlie? He has his own shop (looks awesome) and was comissioned to restore 2 of boyds old rods. He's painted riddler winners I believe, I've alot of respect for him.

I think Chip split from a company with Boyd to set up on his own, a couple of Boyd's men went to work for him, Mike, the machinist and Charlie Hutton the painter.

 

[astro_al]

Always seemed to me that Charlie was basically what kept Boyds workshop going - that guy got stuck into everything - metalwork, whatever needed doing, and he was obviously good at it too. Whenever the car was late (every time) it was always poor old Charlie working all night while the others went home. Whatever they paid that guy, it wasn't enough. Always came across as a really nice guy too.

I did feel sorry for Boyd when all his guys gradually defected over to work with Chip. Right or wrong, it must have been painful for Boyd.

Al.

 

[tigler]

Charlie, Roy, that Swedish fella and there was a dark haired older guy who walked because of the BS, they all seemed the real deal but Charlie & Roy especially.

 

[norsa]

great fan of all mentioned and lets not knock them, they do a fair job. Except Nub who is a very talented guy. The two not mentioned which should be entitled modern day westerns is Chop shop ( would love to see any one of those cars 24 months on) and Desert Kings. (some incredibly dodgy techniques especially in the paint 'shop').

 

[ronan]

Southern Chopper? filmed at Milwaukee Iron

Just had a look for them, closing end of July link

Yes robotstar , thats them , the old guy with the beard who had an interest in all things old , steam trains etc , they should have concentrated on him. his work was excellent.

 

[Weldinator]

Another sign of the times.

 

[wheresmejumper]

great fan of all mentioned and lets not knock them, they do a fair job. Except Nub who is a very talented guy. The two not mentioned which should be entitled modern day westerns is Chop shop ( would love to see any one of those cars 24 months on) and Desert Kings. (some incredibly dodgy techniques especially in the paint 'shop').

not forgetting The Garage

Jock is basically a scottish version of Paul senior,with less respect for clients/'punters'.
a true cowboy,whose methods even make the dodgiest back yard mechanic cringe,which is the main attraction

 

[Seano]

Jeez, What have I started.....it's turning into a monster....... don't know much about Chip Foose or his work, I liked Charlie, his work ethic was amazing, but I wonder how much he felt obligated to produce the work seeing as he was living in Boyd's home, but I think my alltime favourites have to be Roy, and Al.

 

[Weldinator]

Chip Foose's work and style i do like a lot out of all these programmes. The 'Chop Shop' does seem cowboyish but they have made some great looking cars, the 'Tiger' is my fave.

 

[wheresmejumper]

cowboyish is right.they put six inch wheel spacers on a 3 series bmw