Nissan almera brake pipes

[Chris Stevens]

From experience it's very difficult to produce a decent flare on a steel brake pipe using a hand held flaring tool, especially doing a double flare. By time you mess around trying to make a decent joint you would have the full line made up in kunifer with less joints and a lot neater. The kunifer pipe is cheap so it's not too expensive to run new lines from the rear hub to the master cylinder or abs unit. I don't bother joining onto steel pipe any more, too much hassle.

You might find when you start cutting back the steel pipe that it's corroded everywhere under the plastic coating so it will need replaced anyway.

BTW - use a pipe cutter & not a hacksaw to cut the pipe, it leaves a square edge for the flaring tool. You might have to deburr the hole in the copper pipe to allow the flaring tool to fit inside the pipe. I use a small drill bit.

Exactly right. Tried it in the past, and it was major hassle.

 

[V6BOY]

Spot on Turbo, I don't bother messing around cutting bad bits out, depending on the car far easier to replace whole pipe.

 

[octo0072000]

To cut the pipe I have got a mini pipe cutter but I was gonna use a junior hack saw , certainly on the existing steel pipe

NO use the pipe cutter gives a much better cut than a hacksaw end will need to be 90% to pipe and should be filed flat you dont need to do that with a pipe cutter

 

[Mikey D]

Yes but your not supposedly use mini pipe cutters on steel
I might end up replacing the whole line anyway if I can't get a decent flare on the steel , rather go for the easy option tho I only intend to keep the car a year at the most

 

[octo0072000]

Yes but your not supposedly use mini pipe cutters on steel
I might end up replacing the whole line anyway if I can't get a decent flare on the steel , rather go for the easy option tho I only intend to keep the car a year at the most

mini cutters work well on steel brake pipes done hundreds over the years

 

[premmington]

Does that tool cope well in situ with steel or can it be a struggle?
I keep looking at them every time I have a bad time suspending my vice mounted SP tool underneath a car.
Also are the dies the same as the vice mounted (270 series I think) as I have the full set up to 12mm for that?

I too have a bench (vice mounted) SP flaring tool.

The flare master is very good, it is the best tool I have ever used for steel pipes, the ram is grease filled (hydraulic). So it has enough power for steel pipes.

 

[Mikey D]

Tube , fittings and the tool turned up today , had atrial flare , went outside to tackle the job and it started ******* down !thats tomorrow's job then Flare tool works great on the copper , hope it will manage a single flare on steel

 

[Mikey D]

Well it's all done and dusted, well apart from getting mot retest . Flaring tool worked great flared the steel tube easily . Photos in wrong order

 

[normspanners]

I have joined brake pipes male to female hundreds of times
Normally a op 1 on the steel and op 2 on the copper
Most manufacturers have joins this way from new
One thing that is not allowed is compression fittings

some of the steel pipes can be a right pain to flare even an op 1, coz the pipe tends to push through the pipe grips I use an old sykes bench tool with over an inch long clamps, I have modded to hand use for on the car, and that can be touch and go on some of the jap pipes they seem harder than the old british stuff, as doubleboost says do least as poss on the steel.
I have never failed a car for female/ male join, you cant fail them, anyway, only if it leaks !!
you are not allowed to strip and look!!

 

[normspanners]

Yes but your not supposedly use mini pipe cutters on steel

???? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINI-Pipe...rass-aluminium-Tube-ASTA-UK-NEW-/121823918899

mini cutters work well on steel brake pipes done hundreds over the years

 

[paceman1]

nice neat bends in the pipe nice job

 

[Mikey D]

Yes I was wrong mini tube cutter worked well on the steel
You can't beat a Ridgid tool

 

[Mikey D]

Thanks paceman I'm well chuffed with the end result .

 

[doubleboost]

View attachment 80254 View attachment 80253 View attachment 80252 Well it's all done and dusted, well apart from getting mot retest . Flaring tool worked great flared the steel tube easily . Photos in wrong order

Nice tidy repair
I use the same flaring tool for on the job steel pipes

 

[Mikey D]

Thanks DB , it's a great tool , I used to have one of the old moprod flaring tools , in fact I'm sure there's a thread on here about them somewhere .
Cheers Mike

 

[premmington]

View attachment 80254 View attachment 80253 View attachment 80252 Well it's all done and dusted, well apart from getting mot retest . Flaring tool worked great flared the steel tube easily . Photos in wrong order

Looks a neat repair!

As long as you cleaned up the spillage!

I would pass it!

 

[Mikey D]

Spillage ? What spillage nah just let it soak into the Tarmac
Well i did have a ****** takeaway container under to catch the drips but it blew away
Erm the censored word was Chinese

 

[the snooper]

Erm the censored word was Chinese

Or a varient of

 

[Mikey D]

Doesn't everyone say I'm just going for a ******?

 

[the snooper]

Doesn't everyone say I'm just going for a ******?

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