Road fund licence (tax disc)

[dunk]

Come october 1st this year the car tax disc will no longer be issued so no more tax disc shown in windscreen,
i wonder what percentage of motorist know that this is happening, and, the fact that if you buy a car with tax on you car`nt have it,(tax that is) it has to be surrendered by the previous owner, so effectivly you will have to tax the vehicle now as well before you can drive it away legally.

They are saying that the camera network thats been set up is the way they will catch you, along with the old mr plod and his gadgets in his plodmobile, seems yet again another way to prise our wallets open again for a few more ££`s,
if you think about it how much is joe motorist going to be losing by surrendering his tax and loseing that 1 month of whats left of the period of tax,

The reason i ask is i have just had my new tax disc come by post which i applied for online, yet not a jot about the new rules,

 

[cumbriasteve]

It won't make much difference to me, I keep my cars for years so there would only be a very rare refund claim and even then it would only be a significant months loss for the higher tax bracket cars, even if I lost close to a full month it would only be a tenner and there is a lot of free tax cars on the road now so no loss at all.

At least now it stops the scroats pinching tax discs

 

[MoreWellie]

I also just bought a new disc and wondered why I have to display it when in two months people won't have to. I also noticed that every time a car is sold the government "wins" up to a months tax

I have thought for years they should abolish the tax disc and put a bit extra on fuel to cover the lost revenue. It would mean no more tax dodging on vehicles as it is harder to drive around without fuel

 

[fixerupper]

They stopped tax sticker here 2 years ago , the claim was it saved the government millions ,I don't know if did.But a few people said" if they ain't gonna give me a sticker I ain't gonna pay the tax "....jeff...

 

[711jrp]

I also noticed that every time a car is sold the government "wins" up to a months tax

More than up too, the seller will lose a portion of the month and the buyer will loose the other portion of the month giving the government a whole month for nothing unless some clever timing was involved.

 

[Rocketman]

It's about time they adopted not sending out paper tax discs - what a waste of time and money sending them out.

As for how much you loose for car tax, really? Most new cars sold now have car tax of about £35 a year which is considerably less than it was 10-15years ago.

 

[rtbcomp]

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I have thought for years they should abolish the tax disc and put a bit extra on fuel to cover the lost revenue. It would mean no more tax dodging on vehicles as it is harder to drive around without fuel

I agree in principle, I did 100 miles between my last 2 MOTs and paid £225 in VED. I bet petrol thefts would increase though. That wouldn't worry the government though as tax has already been paid before the fuel reaches the pumps.

 

[dunk]

It's about time they adopted not sending out paper tax discs - what a waste of time and money sending them out.

As for how much you loose for car tax, really? Most new cars sold now have car tax of about £35 a year which is considerably less than it was 10-15years ago.

Thats fine for them but a lot of people aint got new cars, and yes i agree sending out a paper disc is money wasted, but, this money is for a road fund licence for THAT car not who bloody drives it so how do the gov get off with screwing the motorist both ways, the buyer and the seller if they dont time the sale on the end of the month, the tax for THAT CAR its on has been paid end of, the question now is if as you say most new cars sold have a car tax of £35, someone somewhere has got to make the short fall up surely, or, are we going to get stung hard later, i think being stung in the future is whats coming

 

[julianf]

Isnt there currently tax on petrol?

Joking apart, ive always thought there should be 3rd party insurance on fuel. That way, even joy riders would be insured, 3rd party...

 

[Wedg1e]

... and as they're doing away with the whole printing, distribution and administration system for the discs, that means money saved that they will presumably pass on to the motorist.

Yeah, right

I suppose the optimum way of buying and selling would be for the seller to deliver the car to the buyer's home on the last day of tax validity, the car stays put overnight and the new owner taxes it the next day. EDIT - Er, pretty much as Dunk implies

 

[711jrp]

It's about time they adopted not sending out paper tax discs - what a waste of time and money sending them out.

As for how much you loose for car tax, really? Most new cars sold now have car tax of about £35 a year which is considerably less than it was 10-15years ago.

Well that makes perfect scene too me I wouldn't expect anything less from Westminster, they save the price of a small bit of printed paper and a stamp and we loose at least £35 pound every time we sell a car....seems lagit. BTW my VED varies between free and nearly 500 bar off which I'm happy to pay.

 

[Wedg1e]

i think being stung in the future is whats coming

I've been saying for years that most of the technology for road pricing, automated speeding fines etc. is already in place, it's just a matter of time before the big announcement is made that we have to bend over and take it.

 

[rtbcomp]

Sneaky neighbours won't be able to shop you though. I bet they increase the number DVLA ANPR vans snooping around.

 

[rtbcomp]

I've been saying for years that most of the technology for road pricing, automated speeding fines etc. is already in place, it's just a matter of time before the big announcement is made that we have to bend over and take it.

The technology could also debit our bank accounts or cards automatically too. So if your car number plate is cloned you could end up paying fines and not finding out until the month-end.

 

[dunk]

I've been saying for years that most of the technology for road pricing, automated speeding fines etc. is already in place, it's just a matter of time before the big announcement is made that we have to bend over and take it.

well i hope the gov supply the vasaline, we pay enough.

 

[711jrp]

^^^ I can't see it maybe they'll put up the tax on personal lucubration products.

 

[dunk]

you may not see it, but you will feel it

 

[Wedg1e]

The technology could also debit our bank accounts or cards automatically too. So if your car number plate is cloned you could end up paying fines and not finding out until the month-end.

Good job I drive a car of which only 90 were ever made and only half of those remain - and I know most of the owners

 

[the snooper]

when you buy another car from october and the tax stricktly speaking is invalid as soon as ownership changes, how do they expect people to drive them home, sure you can get insured for it but your insurance doesnt appear on the mid database straight away it can sometimes be days so there is no way of taxing it, as far as anpr goes they will still work on the previous owners details until the paperwork reaches dvla so will be seen as taxed but not if you get pulled

 

[Cyberprog]

I welsome it personally, they've finally wised up to the fact that the paper discs are un-necessary, and you can now pay monthly too, which makes budgeting much easier. If I buy a D3, I'll be looking at a £400 tax bracket vehicle, and being able to put that on a monthly payment will be much better for me. Yes, we'll lose out slightly by selling a car mid-month, but most people will become wise to that and try and sell at the end of a month which may be nice, and then sorn it if possible.

It has it's ups and downs I guess, but I think the flexability is a bonus.