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Fazerruss
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The Katsu wheel actually looks well made and good for the price. Any small irregularities could easily be ironed out with the end result being a very capable machine.Just been looking, & wondered if there's liable to be much difference, (bar the throat depth), between the likes of a Katsu English wheel:
& the Stakesys wheel.
EWBT400 Benchtop English Wheel
Stakesy's English Wheel for shaping steel and aluminium sheet metal for automotive, motorcycle and aviation work.stakesys.co.uk
I'm guessing the Stakesys would likely be of better construction?
Unless you plan to do large panels like a car roof it should cope with most jobs thrown at it. I did a lot with small bench wheel before making the large floor standing one.
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Yes.so has anyone on the forum produced articles on an English wheel personaly and can show pictures .
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Do they quote a shipping weight? That might highlight any differences in construction thickness.
As it is from Amazon, returns are easy if it's a turkey.
Like the Chinese mini-lathes, you could treat it as a starting point, to be improved.
As it is bolted construction, it would not be too difficult to add doubler plates if it is not stiff enough. Similarly, adding more cross tubes would not be difficult. Better quality bearings for the wheels are another easy upgrade.
The adjusting knob looks very small diameter.
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I make small auto body repair patches for my cars. I have a basic folder, decent bead roller and decent shrinker / stretcher. And a small lead bag now for helping hammer small curves onto patches.
Is an english wheel to smooth curved parts? Does it also stretch metal? I didnt know there were bench versions I could proably do with that better one discussed.
Is an english wheel to smooth curved parts? Does it also stretch metal? I didnt know there were bench versions I could proably do with that better one discussed.
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That's what it was specifically designed for shaping & stretching sheet metal
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I also keep it to remind me that it's not just about learning a skill, it's more about determination & perseverance to overcome a testing situation,
today I failed & lessons were learned, I'm sure a lot of you have been there too.
today I failed & lessons were learned, I'm sure a lot of you have been there too.
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That's good. A bit torn now as to which to go for. The Katsu has a larger throat capacity at 12", over the 10" of the Stakesys, but the Stakesys incudes more anvils. Plus the Katsu is £60 cheaper.
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All good points. I'll look into weights, as there's no info on thickness of plate used for the sides, on either, that I've seen.
I'd noted the adjustment knob. That'd probably be getting changed, whichever I go for.
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Absolutely.
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It was the 12" that you originally looked at, wasn't it (EWBT 400)?
That's 33kg (shipping weight).
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Initially yes, but moved over to looking at the 10" (250) as the 400 would be too big for the workshop, & likely overkill for anything I'd need.
If I do ever give one any notable use & realise I want something bigger, I can always upgrade later on.
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It's a misconception, you don't actually need shed loads of anvils. You will only use about 4 different radii at most.
The radius of the lower anvil isn't the main governing factor on the amount of crown, but rather the pressure and how much time you wheel an area of a panel.
I'm by no means an expert on wheeling but rather voicing my own experience. I've learned a lot about the craft by experimenting and making my own wheeling machines and different anvils. I have some rather obscure shapes that I made to allow me to repair different pre formed panels.
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Is that a record?
