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Being able to properly pilot a car is a source of pride for many.
Dumbing it down with gee whizz gadgets IMHO is plain wrong.
You still have to be in charge of the safe operation of the vehicle.
Self driving will work well for the OP.....
P.S. why are we doing your homework assignment for you ?
Dumbing it down with gee whizz gadgets IMHO is plain wrong.
You still have to be in charge of the safe operation of the vehicle.
Self driving will work well for the OP.....
P.S. why are we doing your homework assignment for you ?
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I think we may be being a little unfair here. The OP is doing a research project and a key part of research is to delve into the problem and ascertain whether there is a value there, in the real market. Often that market testing can conclude that no, there isn't a novel idea here so it's not worth pursuing (which is where market research is far cheaper than engineering research).
They're not asking us to buy or market a potential solution, just for opinion. Some of the responses already highlight the potential issues in bringing such a solution to market, so are probably extremely helpful to their original questions.
We're a generally enlightened, inquisitive, helpful mob so perhaps we could give them the benefit of the doubt and help if we can?
They're not asking us to buy or market a potential solution, just for opinion. Some of the responses already highlight the potential issues in bringing such a solution to market, so are probably extremely helpful to their original questions.
We're a generally enlightened, inquisitive, helpful mob so perhaps we could give them the benefit of the doubt and help if we can?
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Yup.....
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Reversing lights? I don't have those, though at least I think there might be a possibility of wiring them up on my relatively modern classics.
What kind of not-quite-the-real-thing is that car? Only slightly more authentic than a Marina coupe with the stripe. I'd shout "AI!" if it wasn't an Alamy photo.
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I have to wonder if reversing sensors aren't going to be a bit late to the party if not already, then very soon. While the changing frequency beeps work well for me, and may (or may not) be a bit less intrusive on a classic, I would imagine a single unit containing a camera, with just a power supply, bluetoothed to a phone/app would be very easy to achieve. Could be styled according to era, e.g. a chromed bullet type thing.
Its not beyond imagination to be able to pop a bee sized drone out the window and get a top down view.
Its not beyond imagination to be able to pop a bee sized drone out the window and get a top down view.
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Can we now safely assume this is a 1 hit wonder?
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Maybe reading the comments yesterday evening gave all the information needed.
"What kind of not-quite-the-real-thing is that car? Only slightly more authentic than a Marina coupe with the stripe. I'd shout "AI!" if it wasn't an Alamy photo."
That is Huggy Bear standing next to the Starsky and Hutch car from the TV series aired 1975 to 1979. It's a Gran Torino.
"What kind of not-quite-the-real-thing is that car? Only slightly more authentic than a Marina coupe with the stripe. I'd shout "AI!" if it wasn't an Alamy photo."
That is Huggy Bear standing next to the Starsky and Hutch car from the TV series aired 1975 to 1979. It's a Gran Torino.
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at one time just about every teenage boys dream, until Don Johnson rocked up in his countach. although i am more of a yellow ford coupe or dodge charger person myself
I'll take the '55 from two lane blacktop, none of that lardy land sausage nonsense...
I think you can split classic car owners into two subtypes, those that want to preserve it exactly as original, even the radio has to be just a pushbutton radio, and reversing sensors etc are out for them on principle.
Then there's the people that like older cars, but quite happy to improve them here and there to make them a better experience. I'm the latter, to the point that originality is just some abstract concept. There is a subset of this that want things to look period but have modern trimmings too.
Having said that, I dont like backup sensors, after fitting some aftermarket underbumper ones to a renault master panel van that had blind spots rearwards, carefully following the instructions because they were relatively new.
I thought it was great, and started trusting them until I reversed into a bollard that lined up exactly in the middle of the blind spot out my field of vision and they didnt detect it. The ones on both our newer cars are oem and they need regular cleaning of the sensors and they are in a bit thats in the swirl that gets dirty fast. One of them defaults to beeping all the time because of the dirt (good, the do not be a slob alarm notifies you its time to clean), and the other just goes blind and stays silent when you approach things (bad...)
I have fitted cameras in most of them, especially the one with the bad sensor design, small discreet ones that fit in place of one of the numberplate lights or in a surround discreetly, but then you still have to mount up a screen to display it on, so time for a android head unit. I modified my wife's slk's centre console to double din just to get the screen real estate as that has terrible rearward vision with the top up, but it needed rebuilding anyway, old merc plastic disease... So as someone else said I think you might have missed the boat a little bit thinking of only backup sensors unless your targetting the niche that wants everything to sort of look classic but work. We've been kind of spoiled by progress since they came out.
I dont have a camera or sensors on my 80's renault master mk1 pickup but it needs one! The bed/load stops you seeing anything below 5ft tall, and the mirrors are just as bad as the panel van I owned. When towing the car trailer, I cant even see the trailer unless its loaded with a car and I can see the roof. Normal dump trailer, nah cant see it at all, only know its still there on very sharp turns in the mirrors. The rear crossmember outrigger has evidence that its not only me that's found it difficult over the years to park in tight places though I've never actually pranged it on anything myself yet but I've had to iron the marks out the seat cushion afterwards a few times.
On that, the radio/headunit lives down by your feet, so pointless uplifting it to a android unit with big screen because you cant see or reach it when driving (good job renault...), but I have a van system to go on as a roundtuit with a camera to go on the back thats hard wired, with a extra wifi connected camera that can go on the trailer when towing, with a standalone camera only display to go on the centre bit of the dash. Its easy to hide the camera on the chassis discreetly too.
My landrover 90 that I drove for a solid 20 years but is in bits getting fettled, nah, less electronics the better, less to go wrong, workhorse, cheap mp3 player headunit, gps on the phone and thats the limit. When I had my 101FC on the road briefly, I had a tiny 3" screen and a fisheye camera in place of the nato wiring socket in the rear crossmember because with the tilt on, you cant see much behind you apart from the mirrors and I didnt want to clip it being newly restored, I had to put a reverse switch in to operate it and the reversing light because it never came with one from the factory. You dont need reversing lights or door locks if you have guns it seems (they were a military only issue model)...
I think you can split classic car owners into two subtypes, those that want to preserve it exactly as original, even the radio has to be just a pushbutton radio, and reversing sensors etc are out for them on principle.
Then there's the people that like older cars, but quite happy to improve them here and there to make them a better experience. I'm the latter, to the point that originality is just some abstract concept. There is a subset of this that want things to look period but have modern trimmings too.
Having said that, I dont like backup sensors, after fitting some aftermarket underbumper ones to a renault master panel van that had blind spots rearwards, carefully following the instructions because they were relatively new.
I thought it was great, and started trusting them until I reversed into a bollard that lined up exactly in the middle of the blind spot out my field of vision and they didnt detect it. The ones on both our newer cars are oem and they need regular cleaning of the sensors and they are in a bit thats in the swirl that gets dirty fast. One of them defaults to beeping all the time because of the dirt (good, the do not be a slob alarm notifies you its time to clean), and the other just goes blind and stays silent when you approach things (bad...)
I have fitted cameras in most of them, especially the one with the bad sensor design, small discreet ones that fit in place of one of the numberplate lights or in a surround discreetly, but then you still have to mount up a screen to display it on, so time for a android head unit. I modified my wife's slk's centre console to double din just to get the screen real estate as that has terrible rearward vision with the top up, but it needed rebuilding anyway, old merc plastic disease... So as someone else said I think you might have missed the boat a little bit thinking of only backup sensors unless your targetting the niche that wants everything to sort of look classic but work. We've been kind of spoiled by progress since they came out.
I dont have a camera or sensors on my 80's renault master mk1 pickup but it needs one! The bed/load stops you seeing anything below 5ft tall, and the mirrors are just as bad as the panel van I owned. When towing the car trailer, I cant even see the trailer unless its loaded with a car and I can see the roof. Normal dump trailer, nah cant see it at all, only know its still there on very sharp turns in the mirrors. The rear crossmember outrigger has evidence that its not only me that's found it difficult over the years to park in tight places though I've never actually pranged it on anything myself yet but I've had to iron the marks out the seat cushion afterwards a few times.
On that, the radio/headunit lives down by your feet, so pointless uplifting it to a android unit with big screen because you cant see or reach it when driving (good job renault...), but I have a van system to go on as a roundtuit with a camera to go on the back thats hard wired, with a extra wifi connected camera that can go on the trailer when towing, with a standalone camera only display to go on the centre bit of the dash. Its easy to hide the camera on the chassis discreetly too.
My landrover 90 that I drove for a solid 20 years but is in bits getting fettled, nah, less electronics the better, less to go wrong, workhorse, cheap mp3 player headunit, gps on the phone and thats the limit. When I had my 101FC on the road briefly, I had a tiny 3" screen and a fisheye camera in place of the nato wiring socket in the rear crossmember because with the tilt on, you cant see much behind you apart from the mirrors and I didnt want to clip it being newly restored, I had to put a reverse switch in to operate it and the reversing light because it never came with one from the factory. You dont need reversing lights or door locks if you have guns it seems (they were a military only issue model)...
Well it could have been a Daytona, but never any Lambo + the ideal car is a hemi Cuda in broom yellow (which is a Fiat colour I know.)at one time just about every teenage boys dream, until Don Johnson rocked up in his countach. although i am more of a yellow ford coupe or dodge charger person myself
No, not if you dont mind running your cat over one day by accident reversing out the drive.Is spatial awareness now a thing of the past?
Might be for some, I could reverse park an 80's Range Rover, but since converting to jeeps that skill seems to have diminished whether it's the heavy rear tints or brain rot is debateable.Is spatial awareness now a thing of the past?
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Got no issue with that! Or anybody elses cat for that matter, hateful things.
My Mito is a 'supermini' and has both front and rear windows like bloody letterboxes, awful visibility... I've been meaning to get sensors or a camera put on it. A sacrifice to get a big bottom and that 'sporty' look...?
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"Starsky & Hutch" ring a bell ?
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That may be a Gran Torino, but it's nothing like the car from the TV series. It seems to be an earlier one. This is the type that was used in the TV series.
