New car tax rates

[JOEPRO]

Welp my 2003 S600 will get hit hard there. Luckily is used as a classic only and taxed only a couple months a year in summer. Still, what a rip off.

My daily driver 2017 diesel merc won't be hit thankfully so there is that. (It'll still be £35 a year)

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

My daily driver 2017 diesel merc won't be hit thankfully so there is that. (It'll still be £35 a year)

Reckon we are possibly the only country on planet earth where a 6 year old diesel costs less to tax than an EV or a petrol hybrid.

I'll be chucking the EV in a couple months...think it's tax went from £0 to £195 which is quite the increase!

 

[Kram]

Nothing changed for 2017 or older cars? My 2009 Mazda 6, 2L band H, has been paying £300 a year for the last few years and its the same now.

 

[JOEPRO]

Nothing changed for 2017 or older cars? My 2009 Mazda 6, 2L band H, has been paying £300 a year for the last few years and its the same now.

Looks like these are all new rates coming in 1st April 2025 as far as I can tell?

Using same like someone posted before read this-

2025 UK car tax bands: everything you need to know about the VED price hike next month

We explain how the UK's 2025 car tax and Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) road tax systems work. Read on to learn about first year rates, EV incentives and more.

www.carmagazine.co.uk

 

[Kram]

I havent compared the others but I think H is the same...

Its damned silly that a clean 2L petrol, with direct injection and efficiency etc.. costs more than any stinking diesel krautbox.

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

On the face of it the changes seem to discourage buying new cars and encourages holding on to cars in the cheaper bands.

All seems a bit odd but maybe there is some greater objective at work?

 

[ajlelectronics]

On the face of it the changes seem to discourage buying new cars and encourages holding on to cars in the cheaper bands.

All seems a bit odd but maybe there is some greater objective at work?

I admire your optimism. It's much more likely that it is just floundering in the dark.

 

[AVI_8]

I havent compared the others but I think H is the same...
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Its damned silly that a clean 2L petrol, with direct injection and efficiency etc.. costs more than any stinking diesel krautbox.

Looks as though my M2 is going from £185 per year to £385 per year, I wonder if cancelling my road tax in March and getting a refund for the remainder of the year then just retaxing it prior to April would get a full year at the old rate, think I might try that as I hate tax with a terrible vengeance.

 

[Kram]

On the face of it the changes seem to discourage buying new cars and encourages holding on to cars in the cheaper bands.

All seems a bit odd but maybe there is some greater objective at work?

As its CO2 based, and making a new car is extremely bad for that, it makes sense to me. More likely however, the idea, if you can afford a new car, you can afford lots of tax. I quite like that idea

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

More likely however, the idea, if you can afford a new car, you can afford lots of tax. I quite like that idea

Yea I guess it sounds great at the moment...until we're pushed into buying new cars which have higher VED!

 

[AVI_8]

As its CO2 based, and making a new car is extremely bad for that, it makes sense to me. More likely however, the idea, if you can afford a new car, you can afford lots of tax. I quite like that idea

I read an article lately on the subject of the CO2 emissions of making a new Diesel car and was surprised that around 50% of the entire emissions from that car if it lived to 10 years was from the making of the car, the other 50% was from the exhaust, so holding onto a car is far better for the environment than buying a new car, so it seems that taxing a used car more is just a money extorting tax grab, not that I’d expect anything other than that from this current lot.
And perhaps not unexpectedly, a new electric car has way way more CO2 to make it, but of course there’s no co’2 from an electric car, because we all know that electricity is totally green, no fossil fuels, it all comes from windmills in Scotland, honest Guv’ner

 

[ajlelectronics]

As its CO2 based, and making a new car is extremely bad for that, it makes sense to me. More likely however, the idea, if you can afford a new car, you can afford lots of tax. I quite like that idea

The politics of envy.

 

[addjunkie]

As its CO2 based, and making a new car is extremely bad for that, it makes sense to me. More likely however, the idea, if you can afford a new car, you can afford lots of tax. I quite like that idea

The politics of envy.

While I agree to a point. I think you will find in reality its just another inflationary driver.
Who buys most new cars / vans etc, who does most miles, who buys most fuel…..companies. Put up cost of owning new motor, puts up business costs, who pays at the end of the day. The customer, the end user, the little guy in the street. So the politics of envy is almost a kin to Turkeys voting for Christmas!

I actually think there is noreal logic to any of this other than how can we fleece more out of the people for government to raise more.

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

While I agree to a point. I think you will find in reality its just another inflationary driver.

I think when you buy a new car there should be a set rate of VED...and there should be a set formula for increases based on say the rate of inflation so people know exactly where they stand over the ownership cycle of the vehicle.

 

[Cobbler]

I think when you buy a new car there should a set rate of VED...and there should be a set formula for increases based on say the rate of inflation so people know exactly where they stand over the ownership cycle of the vehicle.

That’s too simple, you are talking about politicians here.

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

That’s too simple, you are talking about politicians here.

Sadly very true...always tinkering and meddling!

 

[Morris]

Nothing changed for 2017 or older cars? My 2009 Mazda 6, 2L band H, has been paying £300 a year for the last few years and its the same now.

Seems these will just rise at the inflammation rate. Mine goes from £415 to £435 so not too damaging to the finances in the grand scheme of things.

 

[cheb]

Sadly very true...always tinkering and meddling!

But the public frequently demand 'Something must be done', so the government do something.

 

[ajlelectronics]

Sadly very true...always tinkering and meddling!

Not from a position of experience nor knowledge either, sadly.

 

[cheb]

That's why they employ consultants and other advisors.