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We are actually disadvantaged as our stupid meters dont communicate so cant use fancy tarrifs through the night!I must be one of the lucky ones with a BEV. Or perhaps just ‘sensible’?
I charge my car on E7 power, almost totally. 7 hours each night @ 19p/kWh currently. That means I can charge approx 49kWh each night, should I need to. That is currently indicated as close to 180 miles on the GOM. I achieve rather more than 2 miles/kW! I often just charge for 1 1/2 hours, giving a charge of about 10 1/2kWh (near to 40 miles at this time of the year). This takes advantage of any solar gain from my limited PV at that time of day , effectively reducing my unit costs.
A source of this table would be good? I expect it is not particularly from a pro EV report - exactly the opposite, I would suggest.
If I were to reduce the E-7 hours, I can use power at a cheaper rate by immediately joining the Octopus Go tariff @ the current rate of 9.5p/kWh. I could, if I spent another grand, charge with power @ 7.5p/kWh.
That chart indicates to me the typical cost of the price-capped cost of electricity @ 4 miles/kWh.
I have used public chargers on just three occasions over the last 4 months, or so (4300 miles travelled). I also charged overnight at one establishment (I could have saved buying 20kWh @ 75p/kWh) I paid for that charge at a higher rate than my E-7, but considerably less than a public charger.
That public charging accounts for about 115kWh of the (less than) 1130kWh used - costing me less than £300 for my total charging costs.
That means my costs per mile have been around 7p/mile.
On the Octopus Go tariff, I could have nearly halved that cost (but with increased domestic costs, at this present time). I will be reducing my costs in the near future as I am monitoring my particular electricity use with a target of minimising my cost (not usage) to the minimum.
Some owners, who cannot charge at home might pay out at the indicated rates on that table, but anyone with brain cells to rub together would not pay the 20p rate. Those figures are real carp for all but the most stupid owners out there!
Don't belittle the UK too much. Still the World's 5th biggest economy.Using these Coal Fired Piwer Stations..... well they need so much Energy to run the Factories..... that are making all the Renewables....
To sell to us!
It puts perspective on (& makes a mockery of) our inflated ideas of being a global influence for environmental responsibility.
The UK is no longer a World Leader with an Empire & an influence.... we are a Customer for the goods others manufacture.
And most of the leading Fusion research is being done in Oxford.
I know it is Fizzy. I know the UK has a lot of brilliant people also.
A pity that none of them work for the proper Administration of the country
I know.I know it is Fizzy. I know the UK has a lot of brilliant people also.
A pity that none of them work for the proper Administration of the country
Rolls Royce are desperate to push ahead with SMRs but the government are still messing about. They have now opened a competition between a few manufacturers. As we are no longer in the EU why can't they give the go ahead to a British company?
The potential for SMRs is enormous. Google, Amazon, Microsoft and ChatGPT will need them to run their vast new data centres.
Rolls Royce picking up nicely at the moment. Didn't realise they own MTU the huge German diesel engine maker. MTU bought up a load of British engine manufacturers like Ruston, Paxman, Lister Blackstone etc. Nice to see it come full circle
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I don't think they ever have - certainly not in my lifetime, and remembering my Father & Grandfathers criticism of various administrations, not in their lifetimes either. You just have to make the best of what you have.I know it is Fizzy. I know the UK has a lot of brilliant people also.
A pity that none of them work for the proper Administration of the country
25yrs ago I designed, helped build, commision an enormous two story machine for processing their big up to V16 engine blocks - spent a year in Germany, through a wonderful summer. Good memories!MTU the huge German diesel engine maker. MTU bought up a load of British engine manufacturers like Ruston, Paxman, Lister Blackstone etc. Nice to see it come full circle
That must have been a sight to see!
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You can ask your supplier to change the meter to one that does if you are seeking such a thing . Ours was changed FOC when we moved from SWALEC to EON 15 yrs ago , had a new one a few months ago as part of the local area uplift .
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Ours are fairly new and able to communicate, but it doesn't connect with the network as there is no signal.
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This would make a nice insignia on the front of the electric car eh ?
or:
en.wikipedia.org
Reddy Kilowatt - Wikipedia
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ours wont connect to the display thing
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I think you have to plug them in and turn the power socket on. 
Our very first EON display was clipped over the live meter tail inside the external meter ox and a plug in internal to the bungalow .
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I will just leave this here....
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I went to the MG showroom to look at their new EV offerings this week ...have to say they've come quite a long way since I looked at them a few years ago.
I'm quite tempted by the MG4 EV Trophy...has 270 mile range....£31k for the top spec which is getting more towards what I'd like to be paying...would be a city run around which is ideal use I think.
I also took a look at the MG4 xPOWER...£37k...0-60 in 3.8 seconds (twin motor 4wd)...but the range drops quite a bit so thats not for me.
I'm quite tempted by the MG4 EV Trophy...has 270 mile range....£31k for the top spec which is getting more towards what I'd like to be paying...would be a city run around which is ideal use I think.
I also took a look at the MG4 xPOWER...£37k...0-60 in 3.8 seconds (twin motor 4wd)...but the range drops quite a bit so thats not for me.
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Sounds like they are not bad. I very rarely do long journeys in my EV but I went to Birmingham and back today (140 each way). As an example - thought it useful to describe “a day in the life”. I left home at about 95% charge and it predicted arriving at 49%. In theory I would have had enough for there and back. I stopped off en route for a coffee and plugged it in while i ran In to SBs then unplugged as soon as I was back to the car so probably 10-15 mins charging. Then did the same on the way home (although I did sit for 10 mins extra and respond to some emails). Arrived home with 55% and now it’s back on charge and will be reasonably full by morning (I only use a 13A socket). No stress on range … actually passed a Seat overheating on the side of the A34 and another chap carrying a petrol can (would have stopped to give him a lift but he had made it out the lay-by and was walking along the verge - literally nowhere safe to stop) which I thought was somewhat ironic …. So yep I could have easily done that trip with no stops probably 3 times in my Volvo but I wanted to stop for a coffee anyway. Hopefully provides some real life context to EV use.
Forgot to add. Average was 230w/mile - mostly in cruise control at 70. It told me of the 90% battery I used, 80% was driving, 6% was air conditioning (including heating the battery) and the rest was things like wind. So about 10% penalty on the range which feels about right.
Forgot to add. Average was 230w/mile - mostly in cruise control at 70. It told me of the 90% battery I used, 80% was driving, 6% was air conditioning (including heating the battery) and the rest was things like wind. So about 10% penalty on the range which feels about right.
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@atomant48 do you have a rough idea of the cost per 100 miles...I'm calculating that the MG4 will cost around £20 to charge and that will give 270 miles....have I got this totally wrong?
My use will be mostly city miles...from what I've read it'll generally do a lot more miles for this use?
My use will be mostly city miles...from what I've read it'll generally do a lot more miles for this use?
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The superchargers were 43p/kw today so at “about” 4 miles/kW that would be 11p/mile or £11 per 100 miles. So you are not far off (particularly as i imagine it does closer to 5miles/kw). My home rate is (i think!) 30p /kW so that would be more like £7.50 per 100 miles. Might also be worth considering servicing… i am coming up to 15k miles and 2 years ownership and servicing so far is £0.
How bit is the battery in those things (likely 50 or 75kW or something?) Using a rough 4-5 miles /kW should give you a real world range.
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Cheers...good to have a sense check
.For what I need the MG4 is a good fit I think...they're doing a 0% deal over 2 years which I like because it gives me the (put) option to hand it back if someone suddenly invents a 1,000 battery the size of a shoe box that charges in 10 seconds in the next 2 years!
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That does sound good. If you are only doing short journeys then charging at home becomes easy and i honestly wouldn’t go to the expense of a 30A charger until youve tried on a standard plug for a while. Particularly as the incentives seem to have stopped. Unless you have one of those short window cheap tariffs (4 hour window i think) where you would want to maximise the current draw.Cheers...good to have a sense check
For what I need the MG4 is a good fit I think...they're doing a 0% deal over 2 years which I like because it gives me the (put) option to hand it back if someone suddenly invents a 1,000 battery the size of a shoe box that charges in 10 seconds in the next 2 years!
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