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Let us know how it goes as I’d be interested in some of the older stuff I have
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I'm currently checking the PCV and cleaning the EGR to rule those out.
With the EGR, do I just follow the passages too and from the valve and ensure they are clean? Is it just a passage from the exhaust, to the valve, and from the valve to the intake manifold? Or is it more complex than that ?
I also spoke to Old Mill Motors who are the UK specialist for Troopers. They are aware of the oil consumption issue on the V6 petrol engines and confirmed what I read, that it's due to the oil rings gumming up. There is a fix for it, modifying the rings, others say aftermarket rings don't suffer from the issue, or that later Isuzu rings fixed the issue. But it's three days work to do the top end. I'm very slow, so I'd have to budget a week at least. Old Mill said I'd be better off just fitting the engine from my donor/spare Trooper.
With the EGR, do I just follow the passages too and from the valve and ensure they are clean? Is it just a passage from the exhaust, to the valve, and from the valve to the intake manifold? Or is it more complex than that ?
I also spoke to Old Mill Motors who are the UK specialist for Troopers. They are aware of the oil consumption issue on the V6 petrol engines and confirmed what I read, that it's due to the oil rings gumming up. There is a fix for it, modifying the rings, others say aftermarket rings don't suffer from the issue, or that later Isuzu rings fixed the issue. But it's three days work to do the top end. I'm very slow, so I'd have to budget a week at least. Old Mill said I'd be better off just fitting the engine from my donor/spare Trooper.
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Speak for your self my 2.25 D didn’t leak a drop the gear box and transfer box it poured out of but the engine never leaked. (And yes it did have oil in it)You've clearly never owned a true Land Rover then, as normally you don't have to do oil changes on a 2.25 ltr series engine, it's classed as self servicing oil change engine by most of those in the know....
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id just keep tipping in the thickest it will run on until you have time to swap the other engine in
might run on 20/50 in the summer ?
might run on 20/50 in the summer ?
My brother's audi A5 tfsi had a full engine rebuild at 23,000 miles - cost audi £8,000. He was one of the lucky ones - many customers had to pay out of their own pockets - Vorsprung Durch Technik.
250,000 engines had been built with dodgy piston rings
My old Discovery 300tdi used a lot of oil - until I realised it didn't like being full. Keep it at half on the dipstick and it was fine. Maybe it has it's own level?
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My 2cents.
I've looked into this at length as I have a 215k mile E350 petrol V6 that burns about 1.5 litres in 700 miles. I have concluded it's the valve stem seals (at least).
My symptoms are (estimated causes):
* Start car in morning, quick puff of smoke (oil leaking past valve stem seals overnight)
* Leave the car idle for 20/30 minutes, or do loads of stop/start driving in heavy traffic -- get out onto open road are a steep incline and floor it - the engine starts knocking like mad, mega amounts of smoke out the exhaust and EML flashing with misfire codes on two cylinders... turning car off and on again clears the light. (At idle there is high vacuum in the engine and this high vacuum literally sucks oil in past the oil stem seals and into cylinder, so when you floor it you get a shot of fuel which basically burns up all the oil causing the smoke)
They are supposedly two recognised ways of separating out oil stem seal concerns against piston rings.. with piston rings it should be a more consistent smoking of engine (difficult to see with modern cat convs.)
With regards the piston rings - I would suggest doing a wet and dry compression test on each cylinder which will outline any worn rings. I haven't done this as the sparks plugs are verrrry difficult to get at in mine.
I hope that helps you somewhat.
P.S. I have decided that when time permits I will be replacing all the valve stem seals on my cord by keeping the engine and heads in situ using the "the rope method". It will still be verrry time consuming but low on parts cost, which works for me as I love tinkering. I love my 350 and if it makes it there, I think I might end up driving this car for another 10 years or until the government stops me.
I've looked into this at length as I have a 215k mile E350 petrol V6 that burns about 1.5 litres in 700 miles. I have concluded it's the valve stem seals (at least).
My symptoms are (estimated causes):
* Start car in morning, quick puff of smoke (oil leaking past valve stem seals overnight)
* Leave the car idle for 20/30 minutes, or do loads of stop/start driving in heavy traffic -- get out onto open road are a steep incline and floor it - the engine starts knocking like mad, mega amounts of smoke out the exhaust and EML flashing with misfire codes on two cylinders... turning car off and on again clears the light. (At idle there is high vacuum in the engine and this high vacuum literally sucks oil in past the oil stem seals and into cylinder, so when you floor it you get a shot of fuel which basically burns up all the oil causing the smoke)
They are supposedly two recognised ways of separating out oil stem seal concerns against piston rings.. with piston rings it should be a more consistent smoking of engine (difficult to see with modern cat convs.)
With regards the piston rings - I would suggest doing a wet and dry compression test on each cylinder which will outline any worn rings. I haven't done this as the sparks plugs are verrrry difficult to get at in mine.
I hope that helps you somewhat.
P.S. I have decided that when time permits I will be replacing all the valve stem seals on my cord by keeping the engine and heads in situ using the "the rope method". It will still be verrry time consuming but low on parts cost, which works for me as I love tinkering. I love my 350 and if it makes it there, I think I might end up driving this car for another 10 years or until the government stops me.
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Just a glamorous typographic error.. I wish I had one of those. Looks like it has a fairly significant bruiser under the hood...
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They were a bit special - read all about them, interesting design
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That eludes class
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I 'stumbled upon' the Auburn Cord Duesenberg museum whilst driving from Indianapolis to Detroit years ago - incredible place to visit.
for ring gumming / glazed bores, a lot of people on the veg oil forum fixed that by heating the engine up, running it about 1500rpm and then feeding steam from a wallpaper stripper into the air intake :-)
the ones with really bad problems (engine hardly running) or who wanted more preventative maintenance added water injection to squirt a bit of water into the air intake when engine is on boost as you're driving
veg oil forum is dead now but there were some really compelling before/after photos where people pulled heads off to have a look
the ones with really bad problems (engine hardly running) or who wanted more preventative maintenance added water injection to squirt a bit of water into the air intake when engine is on boost as you're driving
veg oil forum is dead now but there were some really compelling before/after photos where people pulled heads off to have a look
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I've done the Sea Foam treatment, poured 75ml of the stuff in each cylinder and am leaving it in for two days before sucking it out and starting the engine.
If that fails I'll take a look at the veg oil tricks. How come veg oil is dead?
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at that rate the piugs will be heavily encrusted with brown carbon like fossils
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Because there was a time when you had to pay someone to take it away or give it away, now they'll pay you for the waste oil product.
Plus then there's the cost of converting it into bio-fuel/diesel and the cost of the chemicals, plus the time involved...
Might as well buy it off the shelf so to speak.
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£1.10 for new veg oil is still a good saving though?
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Yes, but most vehicles have to run on a mix of forecourt diesel and bio-fuel (veg oil based), cost of converting is less than forecourt fuel but not by much when you take into consideration the other costs involved.
Many years ago when I lived in Grays an old couple used to buy a trolley full of veg oil at Aldi fill up their car, then dump the 5 litre bottles (£1.00 a bottle approx?) in Aldi's waste bin, return to the shop and buy their food.
True re-cycling...
