A surprising cost comparison - ICE / EV

[toddy]

Do tell. I'm sure that there are one or two here on the forum whose imaginations might be running riot

I don't think I should.... as it was not family friendly item

 

[Seadog]

As expected

 

[indy4x]

13 a plug I believe I do know his house has a very limited supply to it he is planning to upgrade it but I think the cost was pretty eyewatering I think it required about 1/4 mile of cabling to the substation

I charge my I Pace at home on a 13A plug, about 37hrs to full from empty

But, I usually charge it at work, not often plugged in at home

Its also on the Public Sector lease scheme

 

[Revs1972]

I will be joining the EV revolution shortly if it turns up next month.
Initially, it’s going to save me a lot in BIK and I can claim 100% of its value against my profits.
I don’t know how long thats going to be the case , once they get more people on board, the incentives will slowly disappear.
As for ICE, they will be around for quite a while yet, but like cigarettes and tobacco, when the time comes, they will just whack the cost up to deter you. ( have you seen the price of a packet of fags these days )
Then the only ones using them will be the rich, or it will be like mad max

 

[atomant48]

I will be joining the EV revolution shortly if it turns up next month.
Initially, it’s going to save me a lot in BIK and I can claim 100% of its value against my profits.
I don’t know how long thats going to be the case , once they get more people on board, the incentives will slowly disappear.
As for ICE, they will be around for quite a while yet, but like cigarettes and tobacco, when the time comes, they will just whack the cost up to deter you. ( have you seen the price of a packet of fags these days )
Then the only ones using them will be the rich, or it will be like mad max

What are you getting ? I’m meant to be having a delivery on 02 dec too. Excited!

 

[Edward Teach]

What they never tell you is that many authorities were deliberately creating congestion and several were caught out doing so and creating the problem they already had the answer to. MONEY again.

I have thought this for many years,
And it does seem more apparent as time goes on,
I certainly do no out 'joy riding' like I used to
Though may well be a 'getting older' thing

 

[8ob]

Portsmouth`s LEZ kicks in at the end of the month, a££ects HGV`s atm but you can be sure the noose will tighten on anything non electric in the next few years.

Portsmouth

Portsmouth will implement a clean air zone autumn 2021.

urbanaccessregulations.eu

Bob

 

[premmington]

Portsmouth`s LEZ kicks in at the end of the month, a££ects HGV`s atm but you can be sure the noose will tighten on anything non electric in the next few years.

Portsmouth

Portsmouth will implement a clean air zone autumn 2021.

urbanaccessregulations.eu

Bob

So when your haulage company is on the floor - due to puppy dog - shortage of drivers - fuel costs. Portsmouth district council "are gonna stick the boot in" with another thing you gotta payout for.

Problem is: Everybody just passes the cost on and it is the end/final user of the goods that have to pay.

This will all lead to high inflation...

Daily charge to enter the Portsmouth CAZ
non compliant private hire vehicles, taxis	£10
non compliant HGVs, buses, coaches	£50

 

[mike os]

About time the haulage industry started boycotting lez/ congestion zones

 

[Edward Teach]

The Government cocked it up in the 60's, with Mr Beeching starting the slow decline to what we have today,
How different it would now be, if most of the heavy haulage had stayed on the railways.
The motorway structure may well have been different, and the congestion may have been worse because of it,
We'll just have to suck it and see

 

[tom2207]

Hello all,

that is now, but as ev ownesrhip increases and fuel revenue drops there has to be a way of recouping that lost revenue. Road charging is likely so ev running cost must increase, probably dramatically.

Alec

just the same as they did with diesel ten years ago.

 

[JMS1972]

Motability purchase 200,000 cars a year or there about apparently

Wouldn't that count as a fleet buyer?

 

[Revs1972]

What are you getting ? I’m meant to be having a delivery on 02 dec too. Excited!

BMW iX3 MSport Pro

 

[JMS1972]

Portsmouth`s LEZ kicks in at the end of the month, a££ects HGV`s atm but you can be sure the noose will tighten on anything non electric in the next few years.

Portsmouth

Portsmouth will implement a clean air zone autumn 2021.

urbanaccessregulations.eu

Bob

Birmingham ULEZ has been going for a while now. £8 for cars

I won't be spending any money there anymore.....

 

[8ob]

The Government cocked it up in the 60's, with Mr Beeching starting the slow decline to what we have today,
How different it would now be, if most of the heavy haulage had stayed on the railways.
The motorway structure may well have been different, and the congestion may have been worse because of it,
We'll just have to suck it and see

They were very well placed to deal with freight, shame it was brought to its knees. It would take a lot to bring it back, they have sold off so many sidings for development they would be pushed to deal with the volume of freight nowadays. They had it all really

Bob

 

[CompoSimmonite]

They were very well placed to deal with freight, shame it was brought to its knees. It would take a lot to bring it back, they have sold off so many sidings for development they would be pushed to deal with the volume of freight nowadays. They had it all really

Bob

My grandparents had a railway siding / yard at the bottom of the garden. Massive and hundreds of, steam, trains and wagons which used to fascinate me in late '50's - early '60's. Dropped by the house a couple of years ago and now the yard is a huge housing estate !

 

[dobbslc]

So much for the LEZ in London supposedly meant to reduce pollution, I was within 200 yards of the carpark just now but couldn't turn right as it's now cyclists only!
Spent another 20 minutes in stop start traffic getting back to where I was. No my van isn't stop start or electric so a few more kg of Co2 for Sadiq Khan / TFL to use as ammo on the motorist.

 

[dobbslc]

My grandparents had a railway siding / yard at the bottom of the garden. Massive and hundreds of, steam, trains and wagons which used to fascinate me in late '50's - early '60's. Dropped by the house a couple of years ago and now the yard is a huge housing estate !

Well we have to put all the rubber dinghy visitors somewhere!

 

[brewdexta]

Wait a couple of decades when climate change means that hundreds of millions of people are displaced and huge areas of crop growing land is under the sea. A few refugees will feel like luxury.

 

[dobbslc]

Better upgrade the grid for all the electric fences we’ll need then...