When I were a lad

[jerrytug]

I got the cane quite deservedly several times , I guess I was a bit thicker than most .
Apparently getting six of the best on the back side in front of the class is or was used to be known as " Knowledge imparted to the seat of all learning " for many .

It took me until I got six hearty wales from a size 14 black Plymsoll at the age of 13 yrs old for being out & out cheeky & stroppy before I calmed down then got on with learning & catching up with what I'd not learnt .
I didn't cry but by heck did my eyes water as I rigidly walked back to my desk at the back of the class , rigidly controlling my breathing and stature with all my pals & girlfriend looking aghast at me.

That night I did a lot of reflecting and growing up & became a very very good pupil , not quite making it to the top of the A stream in my final year aged 15 before joining HMF as an apprentice but being third instead .

That opportunity to reflect and grow up, thus becoming a good pupil, is denied to present-day children because corporal punishment, or even harsh criticism, is now mistakenly considered to be cruel. The reverse is true.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

The cane was used a lot at our school, on reflection they should have used bullets

Bob

But we'd miss you, Bob

 

[Keith 66]

That opportunity to reflect and grow up, thus becoming a good pupil, is denied to present-day children because corporal punishment, or even harsh criticism, is now mistakenly considered to be cruel. The reverse is true.

Having worked as a technician in a secondary school until recently i agree wholeheartedly.
Not long before i left i witnessed a fine example. I had been to the front office to drop a bunch of orders off & was walking back to the workshops along the "Street" a wide main corridoor, This was in the middle of the third lesson of the day, Coming towards me was a year 11 girl, She was on her phone talking to someone. Walking several steps behind her was one of the Deputy headmasters, he was relatively new to the school & had a reputation as a really good teacher. He was pleading with her to come back into class, She was completely ignoring him & carried on walking & talking into her phone, as she came level with me she raised her phone & took a selfie with him in the background over her shoulder obviously sending it on straight away. I walked on & the look of abject shame on the blokes face as i looked into his eyes was a picture. She just carried on & walked out the front door with nobody able to stop her.
The kids today know that in the end there is absolutely nothing the teachers can do if they really push it. You lay a finger on them & they will cry assault & i have actually heard kids say to teachers "You cant do anything to me or i will sue you!".
Some of the girls were just as bad as the boys & some were just awful, sexually loaded questions to teachers & language that in my age would have had them forcibly eating soap. It was after this incident & a few others that i decided my days in the education system were numbered.
I fully expect certain names to crop up in the papers before long for murder or worse!

 

[brewdexta]

I don't agree with corporal punishment, full stop. There are other ways of moderating kids behaviour. Where my youngest daughter goes they put repeat offenders effectively in isolation so they can't talk to their mates, and take their phones from them, with consent from parents. If that doesn't work they are expelled. Nobody is allowed to control classes except the teachers and nobody gets hit.

I came from a rough school where certain teachers were sadists with cane or slipper, and it still didn't control the kids. My brother was constantly in trouble, one of the year tutors was a diminutive guy who nobody respected, he had to get Miss Pridmore, a huge physics teacher to sit on the kids while he caned them Our headmaster was ex-borstal and dished out the cane constantly. It didn't stop kids from tar and feathering the deputy heads car or writing "The headmaster fxxxs like a donkey" in six foot high letters along the new sports hall wall the night before the grand opening!

My father in-law is a recently retired deputy head. He has a commanding demeanour and could control kids without violence. After retirement he taught other teachers how to control kids and earn respect.

 

[KemppiFrog]

Where I went, caning was the ultimate punishment, but was only performed by the headmaster. General misdemeaners got 'history'. A page torn out an old history book, two marks made and you had to learn and recite the text between the marks. Get it wrong and you got more.. Very time consuming . One guy didn't care if he got caned and pushed the limits. To preserve the system he got expelled. In reality, getting caned was not so bad, but discipline was maintained.
I got on OK with the HM, he had raised the school in the general ratings and finally was invited to the Headmasters Conference. i.e. it became a 'Public School' He was passing in the corridor one day and said something about my behaviour. I pleaded innocence, to which he replied 'I think you are the biggest unhung criminal in the school'. I thought that was a bit harsh.. There were others..

 

[Farside]

to which he replied 'I think you are the biggest unhung criminal in the school'. I thought that was a bit harsh..

Quite right, you should have pulled him up on that.
"Un-hanged" would be correct.

 

[Greeves246]

Quite right, you should have pulled him up on that.
"Un-hanged" would be correct.

Unless he had been castrated.

 

[KemppiFrog]

Unless he had been castrated.

Him or me??
He was a priest, but don't think it was part of the ordination process back then....

 

[brightspark]

Me and a friend got the slipper at my secondary school in the mid 80's for disobedience, stung a bit!
I don't think it taught us much as we ******** off down the park for the rest of the day in protest!
That sort of thing probably didn't go on much longer though.

i had a mate who got the cane and it split and made his hand bleed someone broke in to the school well not broke in just left the window unlatched and walked in then snapped all the headmasters canes he used to select which one he hit u with the old git .at assembly he went off on one and called the old bill in . they never ever did know who done it

 

[Cobbler]

Him or me??
He was a priest, but don't think it was part of the ordination process back then....

Judging by what’s coming to light over the years, perhaps it should have been!

 

[KemppiFrog]

Judging by what’s coming to light over the years, perhaps it should have been!

He was one of the good ones, but there were others that should have been locked up and key thrown away.

 

[Greeves246]

Having been caned several times, the first at the age of ten for Blasphemy, a word that I had no comprehension of, for singing the well known carol While shepherds washed their socks by night. Going the to a Grammar school that had several sadistic teachers and two or three homosexual, a couple of canines by the headmaster who appeared to enjoy it too much on reflection, I don’t believe it harmed me mentally but I have no doubt there were pupils who were Damaged by that regime, the majority going on to lead good and productive lives.
I am not in favour of corporal punishment but wrong-doing should have consequences, I am too old to determine what but this current system has led to a situation of untouchability.

 

[Cobbler]

He was one of the good ones, but there were others that should have been locked up and key thrown away.

My brother was taught by the Anglican monk who was to become the defrocked Bishop of Gloucester, he was lucky though, no advances were made. Not that he’s admitting to anyway!

 

[mcostello]

Greeves for the great unwashed from across the pond, could We have the lyrics to that song? Never heard of it. Unless it is not family friendly.

 

[ajlelectronics]

My brother was taught by the Anglican monk who was to become the defrocked Bishop of Gloucester, he was lucky though, no advances were made. Not that he’s admitting to anyway!

He used to patrol Marling too. Never had much to do with him thankfully, it always bothered me to see a bloke wandering around in a frock!

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Greeves for the great unwashed from across the pond, could We have the lyrics to that song? Never heard of it. Unless it is not family friendly.

google is your friend.....

 

[OJCar]

But we'd miss you, Bob

Only with the sighting shot,
then once we'd corrected for wind etc ...

 

[minimutly]

Only with the sighting shot,
then once we'd corrected for wind etc ...

And droop....

 

[bricol]

Presumably, during this era, the young women leaving school got a booklet advising them to get a job which involved fluffy kittens.....

My mum was a work study engineer for Hazell Watsons and Viney in Aylesbury (now a Tesco - or it was last time I was anywhere near - once again, not only engineering firms affected by the publics desire for cheaper stuff) studying printing in London - when she married my dad aged 21, she was invited to leave . . . married women had a husband to look after and kids to produce . . .

In the loft of her house, there should be a first edition Lady Chatterleys Lover, printed by them around the time of her being invited to leave

So she ran a record shop and somewhere in there, supplied equipment to the Barron knights . . . then the kids arrived in 1970 . .

 

[bricol]

The cane was used a lot at our school, on reflection they should have used bullets

Bob

I think I've said this before - a work colleague said he (then) new other half was a primary school headmistress - she reckoned by the age of five, you knew which ones needed to be shot to save the world a lot of expense of detaining them at her majesty's pleasure later on . . .