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Pyecrete
That means we need:
Wood people.
Concrete people
Moulding people.
Mixing people.
That means your final payment will be a negative one.
Pyecrete
Are we talking a nice foncrete raft or a floating raft!
Step forward John
You do know the St Nazaire raid was nothing to do with the u boat pens, but the dry dock, which was successfully put out of commission until the end of the war?
So when I were younger and dafter than I am now, I was in the merchant navy, I visited both sides of the medway during my time, with fruit into Sheerness, oil into the Isle of Grain, also coal from the North east into Kingsnorth power station. I have memories of getting slightly worse for wear in both Hoo, and Sheerness. Sheerness was a proper sea port, with all that goes with it. Hoo from what I remember was quite a nice place.I once stayed at the Royal hotel in Sheerness, it was actually quite good. The Top Banana night club down the docks way was reputedly quite lively, a mate spent some time chatting up a tranny there once, It told him "My names tony with a Y". Just down the road is Queenboro, slightly more salubrious espesially since the glue factory shut. The Admirals arm micro pub is excellent. Sheppey is a strange place.
Sounds like Imingham
Hmmm Well, I’m not sure this raid was attributed in any way to hitlers commando order - that was generally acknowledged to be the result of a raid on Dieppe, plus some others where allied commandos had bound the hands of prisoners and then killed them - the commando order was retribution for these supposed indiscretions.Yes... and as I recall was partly responsible for Hitler's 'commando order' which decreed that any foreigners engaged on non-confrontational operations (i.e. sneaking around and planting bombs, lurking in the woods and attacking behind the lines with the Maquis, the Italian partisans etc.) would be executed whether in or out of uniform. That had ramifications for Op. Frankton, the SAS fighting in the Vosges, the Great Escape prisoners among many others.
A further irony was that the Germans didn't dare send Tirpitz out from the Norwegian fjords as she was the last big floating target, so she never needed the dry dock anyway. Arguably (isn't the passage of time great) it would have been better to wait until Tirpitz WAS in the dry dock because at least she'd have been a sitting duck with open approaches, unlike where she stayed hidden.
Hmmm Well, I’m not sure this raid was attributed in any way to hitlers commando order - that was generally acknowledged to be the result of a raid on Dieppe, plus some others where allied commandos had bound the hands of prisoners and then killed them - the commando order was retribution for these supposed indiscretions.
As well as this the raid was never intended to slow the Germans down - it was always intended as a way of preventing Tirpitz having a base from which to roam the Atlantic, in which case it is generally considered to have been a success. Bearing in mind not that much earlier the sister ship Bismarck had sunk the Hood with loss of ~1500 lives and badly damaged Prince of Wales. If it got out in the Atlantic with air cover and u boat escort then it could have caused mayhem for convoys. It’s always good to look back at these things from the knowledge we have today, but the decisions taken at the time, with their limited information available seem pretty logical when viewed in that context.
While we are all talking about this, remembering today is 6th June, a very different day in 1944.
All gave some, Some gave all.
War just leaves those who are left."
I am on my way back, the skirt up here have ginger beards,hairy legs and I cant understand a word they are saying
Bob