Was I being unreasonable?

[ROYZZA]

Hi. I have the solution to your boss's problem, get the company to cut the RSJ's into nice foot long lengths pop them in the back of the van and get the boss to weld them together when you get back. Sorted,

 

[slimjim]

I think you did the right thing, and if your boss thinks otherwise, then he is a knob.

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

Don't keep us in suspenders.
Anything said this morning?

 

[rtbcomp]

I used to work for a DIY store and was asked to help a customer tie a large piece of glass to his roof rack. I told the customer he was on his own with that one!

 

[Bryan Williams]

Nowt said...
Glad I mentioned it on here though... you can get into bad practice safety habits in work and reading other people's opinions has made me reavaluate the way I do a few things.
The day before I had the flatbed truck and that was low on its springs when full, the trucker by me in the yard commented on it.
I took that as it seemed safe, a low load of galved plate, well strapped down,but If it's overloaded weight wise it's still my neck.
I think my knocking this one back has probably done some good and changed expectations.
I've been reading the docs that you lot have given links to so I know where I stand a bit better now.
Cheers.

 

[Cobbler]

My guess is that your boss realised that there was no way you could have moved that on the roof rack, then decided to say nothing rather than appear a prat condoning dangerous practices.

 

[carbon]

I always strap machines to the floor in my van when transporting them. Even thought some aren’t that heavy, I don’t fancy having one trying to get into the front with me if involved in an accident. Had an ancient years ago with a machine in the back it was heavy enough to twist the front subframe and bend the suspension arms but the machine that was in the back stayed were it was as it was strapped down

 

[Robotstar5]

I always strap machines to the floor in my van when transporting them. Even thought some aren’t that heavy, I don’t fancy having one trying to get into the front with me if involved in an accident. Had an ancient years ago with a machine in the back it was heavy enough to twist the front subframe and bend the suspension arms but the machine that was in the back stayed were it was as it was strapped down

I do the same when moving my stationary engines, they would stay on their own but I don't fancy 30-40kg trying to join me in the front in a bump.

 

[Keith 66]

A few years back a friend & i were moving a heavy steel workbench in a bedford rascal owned by the college, the bench was made from 3" box with a 1/4" plate top, whole thing about 6ft x 4ft, we had it on its side in the rascal tied up with a bit of string. Going under Benfleet railway bridge is a sharp left turn, the string had frayed on the van frame & it went over in the back with an almighty crash. Im pretty sure we went on two wheels for a moment. Not often you have to panel beat dents inwards!

 

[ROYZZA]

Hi, In my delivery days i remember seeing a flatbed 7.5 tonne lorry by a roundabout in Ampthill Bedfordshire with the police in attendance, he was transporting a very large round bar of steel and i do mean a very large round bar of steel possibly well over his payload, and even with the use of chain straps the bar of steel had rolled and was just hanging off the edge of the lorry but had not come off, the transfer of this weight had tilted the lorry at a quite an acute angle, how they managed to get it back in the middle of the lorry is any ones guess. I suppose the moral of the story is strapping your load does work but for round things chocking them to stop rolling is also a very good idea.

 

[Robotstar5]

Hi, In my delivery days i remember seeing a flatbed 7.5 tonne lorry by a roundabout in Ampthill Bedfordshire with the police in attendance, he was transporting a very large round bar of steel and i do mean a very large round bar of steel possibly well over his payload, and even with the use of chain straps the bar of steel had rolled and was just hanging off the edge of the lorry but had not come off, the transfer of this weight had tilted the lorry at a quite an acute angle, how they managed to get it back in the middle of the lorry is any ones guess. I suppose the moral of the story is strapping your load does work but for round things chocking them to stop rolling is also a very good idea.

Gas cylinders make good chocks

 

[nickk]

Reminds me of years ago I fabbed a 178/102 beam for a customer,it was within the wt limit of the roof,now the boss himself came to collect,as he was installing it for a well known family in their well known castle that had burnt down,it was an old merc estate with 450,000 on ,he used as his works truck,just tied to roof rope thru open windows & off to go 150 mile trip.

 

[ROYZZA]

Reminds me of years ago I fabbed a 178/102 beam for a customer,it was within the wt limit of the roof,now the boss himself came to collect,as he was installing it for a well known family in their well known castle that had burnt down,it was an old merc estate with 450,000 on ,he used as his works truck,just tied to roof rope thru open windows & off to go 150 mile trip.

Ha Ha Ha, yup them's where the days, i remember being with my dad and being overtaken by a familiar wheel. yup it was the one from our trailer. sigh! those where the days.

 

[gaz1]

Nowt said...
Glad I mentioned it on here though... you can get into bad practice safety habits in work and reading other people's opinions has made me reavaluate the way I do a few things.
The day before I had the flatbed truck and that was low on its springs when full, the trucker by me in the yard commented on it.
I took that as it seemed safe, a low load of galved plate, well strapped down,but If it's overloaded weight wise it's still my neck.
I think my knocking this one back has probably done some good and changed expectations.
I've been reading the docs that you lot have given links to so I know where I stand a bit better now.
Cheers.

dont count on it the boss will ask again in another time and expect you to carry that load many have argued it and said no to find themselves odnw the road for another monkey to do the work until they lose there license the problem is the company just gets another monkey to do it instead blaming the driver

it happens all too often and to be honest not many actually drivers know there limits until its on the van and say no the wheels are too close to the van to be loaded

its same with weight distribution of the wheels too whats been carried on there wagons

 

[Bryan Williams]

What do you mean ANOTHER monkey?

 

[gaz1]

another driver to drive the load another monkey to drive the vehicle

its what we call companys that go through drivers like anything

 

[Bryan Williams]

Oh, that's alright then, I nearly fell off my tyre swing when I read that..

 

[Bryan Williams]

He's never happy with me anyway, got a rollicking for throwing crap around last week.

 

[daleyd]

Bryan, is that you?

 

[anto]

Correct decision.
I wouldn't even consider loading that on a roof rack for a second.