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Maybe 15 years old for a guess, 1.9 diesel.
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The VED rate on my 09 Jeep GC is currently £700 per year
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My van as meentioned earlier is 2010. That year the government were pushing diesels (!) so had reduced rates that have carried on so up to recently was paying £140 a year and £150 last year.
Im hoping its not going up too much!
I believe a T32 4 motion has very high road tax.
Im hoping its not going up too much!
I believe a T32 4 motion has very high road tax.
The VED on van will depend on how it is registered. My last Transporter a 2021 T5.1 T32 kombi was classed as a commercial vehicle and was £335 year which I believe looking at the info out there will go up about £10 this April. The van before that was classed as a car and was charged at a much higher rate. One thing nobody has mentioned is be aware of the reduced speed limits for vans on the roads especially with the T32.
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@akdaka thanks for the info, the VED wasn't a huge concern but useful to know
On the other hand, knowing it's classification is something I have struggled to find further information on. I'd like it to be classed as a 'car' rather than a 'van'. Don't mind if the VED is higher if that's compensated by being able to be driven at the speed limit for cars as opposed to vans
On the other hand, knowing it's classification is something I have struggled to find further information on. I'd like it to be classed as a 'car' rather than a 'van'. Don't mind if the VED is higher if that's compensated by being able to be driven at the speed limit for cars as opposed to vans
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V5 will state M1 or N1. Not easy to get changed.
Car-derived vans and dual purpose vehicles
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My 2012 Diseasel Mondeo 1.6 is £35 a year.
It’s hard to believe the countries greatest scientists thought diesel was the saviour of the planet, for a few short years, and encouraged sales, then suddenly realised it was the end of life as we know it and vilified it overnight.
I’ve seen car parks where diesels pay double to park there. That’s outright discrimination!
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Wrong i'm afraid. My T5.1 is a kombi and is as Greeves said above N1, so a 'van'. Its to do with weigh that can be carried and the percentage of load space to passenger space. Saying that a Transporter registered as a motorhome is M1.
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The old ones pre 2003/ pre PD are pretty decent. A guy I know bought an ex mobility T4 in about 2004 when it was only a few years old and only a few thousand miles on the clock. 20 years later he's put nearly 200,000 miles on it mostly running it on pure chip fat. At the time there were grants available to get diesels converted for chip fat use with an Elsbett kit. I think the grant covered about half of the cost of the kit and fitting cost. He's had no major issues with it at all and its still holding up well. Its had timing belts and usual suspension and brake work but nothing major, not even a clutch.
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Following is from the gov website
"Dual purpose vehicles
A dual purpose vehicle is a vehicle constructed or adapted for the carriage both of passengers and of goods and designed to weigh no more than 2,040 kg when unladen, and is either:
constructed or adapted so that the driving power of the engine is, or can be selected to be, transmitted to all wheels of the vehicle
or
permanently fitted with a rigid roof, at least one row of transverse passenger seats to the rear of the driver’s seat and will have side and rear windows - there must also be a minimum ratio between the size of passenger and stowage areas"
There is additional blurb about windows needed
Our Renault Master is a converted panel van, it's registered as a Motor Caravan but still has the N1 classification on the log book
The T32 is over the 2040kg unladen weight limit but the T30 could be depending on model
"Dual purpose vehicles
A dual purpose vehicle is a vehicle constructed or adapted for the carriage both of passengers and of goods and designed to weigh no more than 2,040 kg when unladen, and is either:
constructed or adapted so that the driving power of the engine is, or can be selected to be, transmitted to all wheels of the vehicle
or
permanently fitted with a rigid roof, at least one row of transverse passenger seats to the rear of the driver’s seat and will have side and rear windows - there must also be a minimum ratio between the size of passenger and stowage areas"
There is additional blurb about windows needed
Our Renault Master is a converted panel van, it's registered as a Motor Caravan but still has the N1 classification on the log book
The T32 is over the 2040kg unladen weight limit but the T30 could be depending on model
I believe the DVLA rules have changed regarding the Motor Caravan requirements meaning a lot of home conversions cannot now be registered.
A T32 will not qualify as dual purpose so the lower speed limits. I looked into this when I had one, but it would not put me off buying another, its a van not a hot hatch.
A T32 will not qualify as dual purpose so the lower speed limits. I looked into this when I had one, but it would not put me off buying another, its a van not a hot hatch.
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I believe the new rules are the van has to have a fixed high top not a pop up top which really limits how many vans qualify
Really?? Can we fact check that? They'll be hundreds of small businesses put out of business if that's the case.
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The speed limit has got nothing to do with the DVLA - it comes from legislation. The law specifies blanket speed limits and then gives a list of vehicle classes where a lower limit applies. It doesn't include 'motorcaravans' in the classes of vehicles subject to lower [than car] speed limits. (Anything with an unladen weight of more than 3.05 tonnes is included, however.)
'Motorcaravan' is defined in law as follows (whatever DVLA say):
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Yes, has been the case for about 4 or 5 years now. Note that this is just DVLA's take on things of what they want to see to put 'motor caravan' on the V5 - it isn't law. No matter what the DVLA body type, if it fits the definition in my post above, then it's a Motor caravan and not subject to the reduced speed limits.
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Is that the om642 engine?
If so, it's what's in my Jeep and fuel consumption is dire
