Vertical stick feed back please

[Jack Pattenden]

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Good lord!!!

 

[tom2207]

dura plug are about as good as it gets , perma plug do ok too .... 4mm not quite but just about , but the cable grip wont work even on artic let alone decent rubber , but if you turn the cable grip upside down dura plugs work well on 2.5mm , rubber or artic. I had hundreds of them at one point in life and they were the only ones that stood the pace. I actually liked Legrand 16 amps out of them all too. good cable grip and a tough body that holds shape well .

 

[Bsmith]

Nothing wrong with your camera or photos. (joking).
Vertical up is about as difficult as arc welding gets, especially hard for a newbie.
Do loads of welding on the flat first before attempting vertical.
Then follow the good advice given here.

 

[BrokenBiker]

Just don't waste your time at Screwfix if you're after a proper heavy duty 13 amp plug - their "heavy duty" plugs only take a 1.5.mm wire. what you want is something like this, that will actually take a 2.5 mm cable.

https://www.designacable.com/heavy-duty-black-white-or-orange-uk-3-pin-plug-13-amp-hdpt13b-01-permaplug.html#:~:text=The%20plug%20allows%20for%20a,5mm.&text=Reviews%201-,Tough%20plugs%20made%20from%20hard%20rubber%20available%20in,%2C%20Black%2C%20White%20and%20Orange.

I'm running about 4 heavy duty plugs from screwfix with 2.5mm flex...never had an issue with them

 

[Martin Hocking]

Heating up the electrodes in the oven or by shorting them out with the welder before you weld will help (you probably won’t be able to do this without blowing the plug fuse though on the bantam). The only time rods you don’t keep sealed are ‘dry’ is just after you’ve heated them up. It might not make a world or difference but using the rods as nature intended is a good starting point.

 

[8ob]

Running before you can walk comes to mind. Try working your way up to vertical, lay the plate at 45% to start with and master that. You will notice the difference and make adjustments to technique as you progress/ incline the plate further. Chalk in a few lines to keep on track.

Bob

 

[snotters64]

If you are new to stick welding ,stay away from 718's is my advice, 6013's are a easy rod to use for learning for vertical and other positions . Just take your time and keep good control of rod angle,,start high with your amps then just tone it down . Go look at WELDINGTIPSANDTRICKS youtube channel Jody is one of the best in the business at teaching ,hell he worked at NASA

 

[More Amps]

I'm running about 4 heavy duty plugs from screwfix with 2.5mm flex...never had an issue with them

Here's what Screwfix say about their "heavy duty" plugs - I'm not saying you can't jam a 2.5 mm cable in there, but they are becoming more like B&Q every day.

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[BrokenBiker]

Here's what Screwfix say about their "heavy duty" plugs - I'm not saying you can't jam a 2.5 mm cable in there, but they are becoming more like B&Q every day.

Essentials 13A Fused Heavy Duty Plug Black (68744)​

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Durable and hardwearing.

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• Suitable for 0.75-1.5mm 3-Core Cable

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View all: Essentials Electric Plugs

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Its not even a case of jamming the 2.5mm in there...granted i bought mine a while ago but it comfortably takes 2.5mm...

Thinking about it the last one I bought was when I brought the lathe home as I expected it to need a lot more power than it does

 

[little harry]

yes its a 16 amp plug...get a 16 amp socket from screw fix, a length of decent flex, i think 2.5 is the largest you can fit, and a heavy duty 13 amp plug (because they have a larger opening for the thicker cable)...

make sure you have a 13amp fuse in the standard plug and be ready to blow fuses if you try to run it too high...but on a 2.5mm rod you should be fine.

i run all my welders off those blue plugs as it stops people wanting to borrow them, but i have a fly lead for when im working at someone elses house.

Hi thanx for advice i have done what you suggested and didnt encounter two much trouble getting wires into the plug
Managed some realy gud looking welds on 2.5 i did blow some fuses at higher amps
Also tripped the rcd in workshop a couple of times
When i started to use 3.2 cast rods at 145 amps the house main fuse box tripped
Reset ok but the above welder won't fire up i have checked plug
Any ideas LH

 

[BrokenBiker]

Hi thanx for advice i have done what you suggested and didnt encounter two much trouble getting wires into the plug
Managed some realy gud looking welds on 2.5 i did blow some fuses at higher amps
Also tripped the rcd in workshop a couple of times
When i started to use 3.2 cast rods at 145 amps the house main fuse box tripped
Reset ok but the above welder won't fire up i have checked plug
Any ideas LH

No idea sorry, not familiar with the machine although there will be people that here that are. I'd check connection in all plugs though and double check fuse connections

 

[little harry]

No idea sorry, not familiar with the machine although there will be people that here that are. I'd check connection in all plugs though and double check fuse connections

Many thanx