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if auto 3 reverse and 1 forward gearsilly question I know, but.....
.. some engines (often merc ones) turn the other way,
I assume you checked?

if auto 3 reverse and 1 forward gearsilly question I know, but.....
.. some engines (often merc ones) turn the other way,
I assume you checked?
silly question I know, but.....
.. some engines (often merc ones) turn the other way,
I assume you checked?
The OM366 like a lot of Merc engines of that ere are direct injection and don't require glow plugs. They are a fantastic bit of kit.
C1
C1 gives you 7500kg on a ridged vehicle & a 750kg trailer.
It does not give you 8250kg split as you like between units.
C1+E gives you 8250kg split between units on a pre 97 or 1200kg on a post 97. However like you said the trailer cant weigh more than the vehicle.
You need C+E.
You cant have over run brakes on a trailer of over 3500kg. Some landrovers can tow 4000kg if trailer has active brakes.
hiIs that C1E on a pre 97 licence or did you take the test?
If it came out of the factory or from a conversion company that has tested & plated it to under 3500kg MAM & with an under 8250kg GTW then it should / could be ok on a pre 97 licence.
As yours is a DIY conversion you will have to look at what it is plated at already. I am also not sure what affect the 5th wheel will have on the licence needed.
If it was me I would want a C+E to be 100% sure I was ok.
Re your non 107 licence there was a short time when the new regs came in that you could apply to get the 107 lifted if you had been using your licence for driving a vehicle over the 8250kg limit. I think it was the first year.
I would not want to drive one of those mini artics on a post 97 B+E unless both units were under 3500kg each & a GTW of 7000kg or less.
thats typical of insurers, was it ever foundI wasn't arguing, Donny VOSA station tested it the first time, the tester made 3 40t move to let me on, I even swapped lanes half way down. The following yr, I got a right jobs worth, refused to test it so I rang Beverly Staion up, and they tested it.
It wasn't a problem the following year as some toe rag nicked it. I was £33k out of pocket because of the insurance agent hadn't informed the underwriters on the conversion
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you should post a pic on here someone may have seen itNoop And 13yrs later I still look for it
you should post a pic on here someone may have seen it
not a converted paddywagon is itI was so busy at the time we didn't take many pictures, pity as the inside was mint.
Here's aonther one. (sorry Baloo didnt mean to high jack)
C1 and C seem very simalar, how do you add e?, so a C license is like the old hgv 2 up to 18 tons ?
and what i use to tow with at the moment has been a fifth wheel since new, registered on the v5 as a motor tractor but its 6.5 tons gross
Category C1
You can drive vehicles weighing between 3,500 and 7,500kg (with a trailer up to 750kg).
Category C1+E
You can drive C1 category vehicles with a trailer over 750kg, but the trailer - when fully loaded - can’t weigh more than the vehicle.
The combined weight of both can’t exceed 12,000kg.
Large vehicles
Category C
You can drive vehicles over 3,500kg (with a trailer up to 750kg).
Category C+E
You can drive category C vehicles with a trailer over 750kg.
It wasn't a problem the following year as some toe rag nicked it. I was £33k out of pocket because of the insurance agent hadn't informed the underwriters on the conversion
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hi
i have C1+e which entitles me to have a combo of 12000 kg ?