stopping wire getting rusty

[aametalmaster]

I spray with WD40 too, Bob, and I never get problems neither. But I've been keeping pretty quiet about it, because some of the guys on here start having kittens if you tell 'em that...

Well here is my take on the WD40 issue. I am a manufacture of ceilingtrains and they are welded from new shiney steel tubing. Now the problem in the summer time is rust from the high humid days. Then there is some splatter issues. So if i use the ready to use anti splatters the stuff in those cans will kill you dead. I have read the labels as well as used them for 25 years. Then there is the anti splatter with a water based formula and like i said before that stuff will rust anything real quick. I can't buy anything (i have tried) that works better than WD40 for the rust and splatter, any spray manufactures want to send me some samples i am all ears. So i put all of my little parts in the fixtures and spray everything with the WD40 and weld away. Now i am not a total retard and i do weld near an open door with a fan sucking out and i do wear a half mask 3M respirator with a chemical filter just in case anyone is wondering. I just retired from an oil refinery so i learned how to use the stuff. My rusting and splatter problem is gone too as i don't want to clean off 1,000 little pcs of metal and maybe 5,000 welds. Just my thoughts i will go back to my corner...Bob

 

[Robotstar5]

I can't buy anything (i have tried) that works better than WD40 for the rust and splatter, any spray manufactures want to send me some samples i am all ears.

Hi Bob, have you considered Spattershield I've mainly installed it in robotic applications, but can plumbed into manual welders or dispensed from a spray bottle.

 

[aametalmaster]

Thanks for the link. I just compared it to the WD40 MSDS and the two products are pretty close as far as whats in them and the dangers. I ran 2 robotic welding cells and they were just setting up the spray when i left so i never got to see it work...Bob

 

[edzt]

Woah Bob those trains are cool

 

[aametalmaster]

Woah Bob those trains are cool

Thank You...Bob

 

[reggieroo]

Not into trains but they are cool Bob, I actually want some now

 

[TechnicAl]

I dont know whats in WD40 and I suspect no-one has ever analysed welding fume containing WD40 that has passed through an arc.

For that reason it has to be suspect

Anti-spatter spray will have an MSDS that is based on it use ie stopping welding spatter

I would be very careful. Some of these oils/alcohols/solvents form phosgene at arc temperatures. I dont know if WD40 forms phosgene but I dont know if it doesnt either.

Phosgene is nerve gas

 

[aametalmaster]

I dont know whats in WD40 and I suspect no-one has ever analysed welding fume containing WD40 that has passed through an arc.

I would be very careful. Some of these oils/alcohols/solvents form phosgene at arc temperatures. I dont know if WD40 forms phosgene but I dont know if it doesnt either.

Phosgene is nerve gas

I just emailed the WD 40 company and told them what i was doing with it so they can answer our question...Bob

 

[GeorgiePorgie]

The wire housing,you could line it with 1/4" Polystyrene and make sure it seals at each side when the door housing flap shuts.

Polystyrene is a good insulation for keeping damp out of metal enclosures.

 

[TechnicAl]

I just emailed the WD 40 company and told them what i was doing with it so they can answer our question...Bob

Oh good

It will be interesting to see what they say

 

[GeorgiePorgie]

WD40,if it were that good we would be coating the underneath of our cars for weathering protection.

Personally I use used oil brushed on the underneath,simple reason is if you ever go to a scrapyard look at the parts that are caked in oil,wipe it off and you won't see any rust on the metal.

 

[keith19]

Back in the 70's we always used to have our van and car steam-cleaned and then sprayed underneath with used engine oil, this time of year. Commercial vehicles often got this treatment as part of maintenance. Don't know if garages do it these days, rather doubt it.

 

[edzt]

Noooh....... used engine oil is acidic and rots the suspension rubbers

 

[keith19]

Never had to replace many rubbers that I can recall. Perhaps it was tougher rubber then? Also heard the Army used to give its vehicles this treatment, too.
If it was good enough for the Army...

 

[aametalmaster]

Oh good

It will be interesting to see what they say

Here is their reply...Bob
Dear Robert Wright,


Thank you for contacting WD-40 Company.

This is indeed an urban myth.

You need a chlorinated solvent to form phosgene in the presence of very high temperatures. WD-40 contains no chlorinated materials at all.

If this happens at all, it is from the presence of chlorinate materials from a source other than WD-40.

Thank you again for contacting WD-40 Company. Please let us know if we may be of further assistance.

Best regards,
Laura Cody
WD-40 Customer Service

 

[TechnicAl]

Good

Its not really an urban myth until we know that WD40 doesnt contain a chlorinated solvent. Before now, we didnt know either way.

Did they say it was OK for use as anti spatter?

 

[keith19]

Thanks for making that enquiry, Bob.
I shall sleep better knowing I'm not giving myself a phosgene cocktail. Guess you will too.
Must say I've never felt any ill effects, or even smelt anything much neither, in all the time I've used the stuff on wire, going back to the 1980's.

Regards, Keith.

 

[aametalmaster]

Good

Its not really an urban myth until we know that WD40 doesnt contain a chlorinated solvent. Before now, we didnt know either way.

Did they say it was OK for use as anti spatter?

Looks like there are 2001 uses for WD40 LOL. She didn't come right out and say but i did send some pics of what i am doing and she didn't say not to but that could be another question...Bob