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Not exactly hyrodvane... It's a compair screw compressor at 47cfm should be plenty for gouging...
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Oh yes, plenty for gouging, running big air breakers, air/hydraulic power packs etc etc... very handy to have on a quarry service truck.
How many kva aux power is there on the trailblazer (12kw iirc)? Might be enough to run a powermax45
How many kva aux power is there on the trailblazer (12kw iirc)? Might be enough to run a powermax45
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Gosh honestly I shouldn't go down the kitting up route too far without any promises of work
Have you looked into insurance requirements fully? It's getting very expensive to such an extent I am seriously thinking of dumping it from my workload. Along with three lots of paperwork to do for insurance on each job
Risk assessment. Consent to start and one satisfaction and completion all need filing
Sounds like a five figure investment just for your kick off without contracts in if I read this right
Have you looked into insurance requirements fully? It's getting very expensive to such an extent I am seriously thinking of dumping it from my workload. Along with three lots of paperwork to do for insurance on each job
Risk assessment. Consent to start and one satisfaction and completion all need filing
Sounds like a five figure investment just for your kick off without contracts in if I read this right
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Its got 9.5kva constant 11peak I think..
To be honest I'm thinking of bigblue miller instead or use a parallel box just for gouging, purely so I can run bigger carbons.
Maybe a small 150set run off aux power.
Not sure yet..
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I'm lucky.. I have a full time job at present. But I miss my welding, fabrication...
I do a hardfacing job once a year and Tha paid for the miller....
I know a guy Tha imports the compair c14's and got it cheap.... So its not a bad outlay upto now...
Insurance was pretty reasonable..
Risk assessments I do anyway for my daily job....
So I'm hoping to just see how much work is out there, see if I can pull any contracts in, and look into full time...
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You could look at longbed L200s. They were an option ~2008 to 2010 and then standard in 2010 onwards.
My shortbed (with a double cab) is 110 cm between the wheel arches in the bed, and just under 2m length with the tailgate up (perfectly legal to drive around with the tailgate down).
Longbeds are, IIRC, about 2300mm with the tailgate up.
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It's. Not the best paying area and mobile welding kit gets stolen a lot! You might make a tenner an hour more an hour than working for someone else with all the investment. Bad payers etc to be figured into that
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I do like L200's...
I kind of feel i will end up with a dedicated trailer...
Unless I just mount the miller on the frame. And I the job requires airarc plates off then I can take a small trailer too...
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Must admit the gear getting stolen does worry me... !!!
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I hire it for the job. Besides the security and investment issues there is the fact I just cost in the hire no depreciation no breakdowns and service costs.
Your very brave to buy especially at this stage.
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Kent makes a good point.
Hiring the kit is a great idea. The cost of a weeks hire can be put onto the job Price and it saves so much hassle. We used to hire a lot. Saves the grief of maintenance and servicing costs. If it goes wrong on the job a replacement isn't far away. Good company's will deliver it on site and collect so saves you hassle of transportation. Most importantly a good hire company keeps there fleet updated regularly which gives you total piece of mind that the kit is reliable. Last thing you need on site is a breakdown stopping or delaying job completion. I know these guys well and it costs them £££££ to have kit shut down for hard face/welding repairs. Finish the job early and you'll be back every time finish it late or not at all and you'll be replaced very quickly.
Hiring the kit is a great idea. The cost of a weeks hire can be put onto the job Price and it saves so much hassle. We used to hire a lot. Saves the grief of maintenance and servicing costs. If it goes wrong on the job a replacement isn't far away. Good company's will deliver it on site and collect so saves you hassle of transportation. Most importantly a good hire company keeps there fleet updated regularly which gives you total piece of mind that the kit is reliable. Last thing you need on site is a breakdown stopping or delaying job completion. I know these guys well and it costs them £££££ to have kit shut down for hard face/welding repairs. Finish the job early and you'll be back every time finish it late or not at all and you'll be replaced very quickly.
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You're right Richard there are benefits to hiring,but what he has got already cheap is most of the outlay.i know some of the millers come with a decent sized compressor for gouging which would neatly package 90% of the required hardware.if you own the equipment and take out the hire Co you take in more money every week.what would stop me from doing it is thieves and thieves alone
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Hi, all I can contribute to this is with mounting the kit on vehicles, if smaller vehicles then watch your axle weights. On larger vehicles think about driving licence requirements. If you hire in the kit and get it delivered then you can get away with a smaller vehicle.
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Paperwork is the key for any work in quarries.
The large companies will be looking for an SPA quarry pasport, some sort of coding to show you can weld, public liability needed to be £10M.
On site it then needed a site and company induction, risk assesments, swp's, hot work permits etc.
Training for use of grinders, burning gear.
I think it's usually 120 days to get paid....i work through someone else and get paid in a couple of weeks.
The large companies will be looking for an SPA quarry pasport, some sort of coding to show you can weld, public liability needed to be £10M.
On site it then needed a site and company induction, risk assesments, swp's, hot work permits etc.
Training for use of grinders, burning gear.
I think it's usually 120 days to get paid....i work through someone else and get paid in a couple of weeks.
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It's great owning your own kit but site environment is harsh even on the best of the best gear especially cement and coal plants where continuous amounts of dust is your kits enemy. If that breaks down while gouging out hard face plate and prolongs the length of time the equipment he's working on to be out of service then repeat contracts are going to be a fight for. I'd personally be happy to reduce my cut slightly if it meant I had good backup on the equipment and repeated work on the site. Thieves are a concern but my biggest concern would be getting done on time getting paid and coming back again.
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I like to own my own equipment....My outlay was next to nothing, I worked 30hrs ish it paid for the miller, compressor was paid with eBay crap....
As I work full time mon-fri.. I'm only left with sat sun, and that time will be tied up at a recycling place repairing a machine, air arc old blades off a rotor ect...
I'm not going into this blind, I'm starting off with a company that I've know for 20yrs that offers me welding jobs, I'm only going to work local ish for now.... There's quarry works, recycling company's, all the engineering company's I worked for in the past all pretty local...
Already know about risk assessments, method statements ect....
Just been given a fantastic contacts list too... Which was very much appreciated from a guy off this forum...
So I'm just starting off small and local, see how it goes...
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Isn't that a slight overkill....
