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You are just hording /looking after them for other people.
And I loved the way the paint brush was professionally wrapped (probably still wet with red paint) so it was “ready to go” for the next vice.I don't use emojis, but maybe I should -- "well, will you look at that"
You know, the seller really had me fooled - thought it was brand new, and then I spotted the paintbrush.
Fully restored Record - £85
Condition: Used-like new
"All working order been repainted i"
"well, will you look at that"
And I loved the way the paint brush was professionally wrapped (probably still wet with red paint) so it was “ready to go” for the next vice.
Call that shameful?
Superb vices you've got there Danny, there are some you just can't let pass you by (an excuse i've used previously to Sophie when buying something else )Well I 'took the pledge' after getting the huge Parky 9 very early version, and adjustable stand - no more big vices.
Except, except if a ---- or a --- turned up - so I was making a trip south to see family and family history last week, at the same time, without really looking at all, that auction site notified me of a couple of offers - about to put their email in spam when I looked a bit more closely - the b---s had profiled me so well that I had to look more closely, interesting and both collection only and on my route.
I don't think I'll find an early 'swivel-base, swivel-jaw' Parky (as owned by? Ardvark, or Matt, on here) in my price range.
However, --- now the owner of this swivel-jaw Peter Wright-style vice - 6in jaw, 80lbs, perfect condition - my Record 74 will have to make way:
I have to credit the fine gentleman/craftsman who used and cared for it for over 40 years - before which it had been on the bench of the 'boss of a moulding shop' in Kent. I have seen one similar on the internet (but smaller?) and a very fuzzy photo of the engraving in a Buck & Hickman catalogue of 1900. Good quality maroon repaint many years ago, but the underlayer is a dull mid-grey paint.
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Also en route this 3 3/4in jaw Parky - so what? - nice you may say (although a bit of the casting chipped off on the other side) well it's early (says PARKINSON'S and VICE thus) and has a two casting static side with a low 'waistline' and no model number, and unusually has all the cast-in script on both sides; but what interested me in particular was that unreadable (under the black overpaint) square framed marking - yes, it's one made by Cocker Bros of Sheffield who seem to have had a short licence to make these from 1885. I took a punt that this might be the case (vice slightly pricey for me) as impossible to read until up close. So buttress thread quick release vices were made in Sheff well before the Hampton family arrived with Record and Woden brands (let alone all the others along later). As owned, I believe by Wabbit? - who has one or more of most vices (advantage of starting before most of the rest of us - don't take the wrong meaning of anything I just wrote - Wabb).
Thickly overpainted with black gloss but again the underlay is a light/mid grey-green. 35lbs.
I'll enjoy it for now, but I think this has to eventually be donated to the Hawley Collection of Sheffield.
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Now, really, no more big vices (and I really have far too many small 'uns, but at least they 'tuck away').
That's fabulous. That AM badge really lends it some history.
Superb vices you've got there Danny, there are some you just can't let pass you by (an excuse i've used previously to Sophie when buying something else )
The Peter Wright style is a beauty, but that Parky wow, great buy, that's really worth having. Any chance of any more pics at some point ? I even don't mind the obviously quite old re-paint in black, it certainly looks to have "lived".
I take your point re' the paint obscuring it, perhaps a preliminary brass brushing of the relevant area might help in the mean time? Certainly be good to clearly see what it says.thanks, vono, I know what you mean, but really think I will have to clean off the black as it does very much obscure the raised letters (even looks like VICE on one side and VISE on t'other, but I think both will be VICE under the paint) and I can only make out the Cocker Bros because I know it's there (SHEFFIELD is a little clearer) - other aspects of the build are also interesting, but the lettering is the first thing to clarify.
Regarding where the split in the rear casting comes - I'll call it low-waist and high-waist- strange that there are different versions here - I would think the low-waist was easier to machine, but the high-waist had slightly more stability, once carefully machined?
I do even wonder if Cocker Bros made all the Parkys for a short while in the 1880s, at least in the most popular sizes - Parkinsons had so many different big machines in manufacture in Shipley, and may have been short on capacity - seems strange otherwise - Cockers were a spring maker (note -springs for the QR) with a foundry and other ironworking, and Sheffield is not that far from Bradford - you'd think if they were licensing then Europe, Canada, USA or Australia would have been more obvious, keeping the home market to themselves. And did they make a strategic mistake - giving Sheffielders the practical skills to make their vices - did Hamptons then come to Sheff from Brum to employ the workers who knew this?
So it may take a while before I upload more pix, but I won't forget (busy few months coming up). Meanwhile I'd love to hear if anyone digs more on the Parkinson Bradford Sheffield QR story. Almost everything I said in the above para is conjecture or from scrappy info - happy to be put straight.
PS, I have been told by an American who got his info from our own Wabbit's archive, that the other vice is called "The Tenacious" and was not only listed in Buck and Hickman for 1900, but also !913 and came in non-swivel version which was listed for a few more years - but no maker named and although almost identical, the catalogue shows it without the mini anvil to rear.
Hmmm, that colour scheme would compliment the bench my Swindens is on.
.......................................to 'Turnscrew' -- re Proper vice gotta be red. Any fule know dat.