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eLuSiVeMiTe
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Had Someone over here go for an oil change. Double checked the garages work and They put in an extra quart(imperial measurement word) or two. He went right back and They told Him the marks on the stick were only optional.
Same here, although until cars become fully aware/driverless and can shut themselves down when a fault is sensed, it's best that the mot stays I think.
What about it ?
1) they care not about level
2) they are allowed to bypass the check
3) many modern cars have no dipstick and it's a non-dismantling test so they cannot access it
They also rarely connect RPM sensors
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No I had enough room when he pulled in I no longer did.. Can you please tell me how the heck you manage to leave double stopping distances on a busy a road ?
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by leaving a bigger gap. :/ whats how busy the road is got to do with it.
Spend my days driving well loaded vehicles and always leave plenty of room regardless of how busy the road is. always get some numpty who pulls in but ease off and create the gap again.
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most likley a light on the dash ..if it still works
Well that would appear to be easier than acknowledging you are wrong and the mot guy does not check you oil level for youYou appear to be looking for argument rather than a discussion, I'll let you continue to look.
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So you was on a busy road with only just enough distance to stop, so long as you reacted fast enough. Added to that a bike wanted past, [which he is legally able to do] and you didnt give him room. The better thing to do would have been to let him do so, as safely as possible.
There’s always 3 sides to a story. Yours, theirs and the truth.
You're disagreeing with Kent while saying you do the same thing he does.
As I said earlier, just because you leave braking distance doesn't mean the muppet that overtakes into it doesn't nearly take your nose off ( leaving themselves plenty of braking distance from the car in front )
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That would have cars parking folk at the side of the road in winter to freeze to death on a mountain where the person may have been able to continue with caution or decided that their life was worth more to them than a wrecked engine, but it wouldn't be worth more to the manufacturer than a warranty claim.
I'm not in favour of removing peoples fate from their control , I'd always rather be an Morlock then an Eloi
Look at the amount of people, ok few, killed by faulty "fly by wire" throttle which coupled with auto trans that won't let you pick a wrong gear meant they could neither select neutral or step on the clutch and just let the engine blow.
The "self drive" car that could not tell the sky from a truck.
The plane crashes where they conclude that pilots should fly more and trust automation less.
Don't get me wrong, as said earlier I am completely in favour of a yearly MOT.
I do understand no MOT for older cars as driving older cars I know the MOT guys that aren't as old as my cars have insufficient experience to judge what is normal for these cars.
No MOT for over 40 year old cars does worry me. My wife's 77 car that I have not finished restoring due to rust could technically be put straight back on the road. Barn finds that were in atrocious condition are now suddenly legal (though obviously defects could be ticketed / earn points at the side of the road but in recent years the vehicle defect notices has plummeted from hundreds of thousands to a token amount as they focussed resources elsewhere, hence all the lights you see out on cars.
Not out of context, the important points so as not obscured by the rest. As said twice now, you can leave sufficient gap and if the person that pulls in front nearly takes your nose off you still need to brake.
Kent's original post implies in no way he is too close, the rest is just illogical extension of argument but if you go back to the original he is neither pot or kettle.
So what happens before the next service ? the car drives around with less than the correct amount of oil in it ? what a bunch of muppets. All engines are allowed to burn a certain amount of oil per mile, in theory the service interval should be short enough so the oil doesn't fall below minimum before the next service is due.
I'd be reporting the garage to the trading standards as they are potentially risking customers vehicles so they can save a bob or two, I wouldn't be surprised if they are billing the customer for enough oil to reach the max mark either which makes it fraud as well.
I doubt that any life would be put at risk, if the fault were that serious and the vehicle couldn't continue on, it would simply call for a breakdown truck and taxi. I know that in the States for example, the 'vehicle' can already make a call for medical assistance after it's been involved in a crash so it's certainly a possibility in the future.
Funny, just the other day I watched a video by Scooty Kilmyer on YouTube, he covered the oil burning subject, so many dealers telling their customers that it's normal to burn a quart of oil between services.
He says that crap, if a 4 stroke engine were designed and made correctly, it shouldn't burn any oil.
I gotta say, I agree with him,....all the cars I've owned have never burnt any oil.
