Rotten Escort Van... Typical

  1. Paulegt New Member

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    Hi all, just joined.

    I have a 1991 escort van which is my general workhorse. I did plenty of work to get her through her M.O.T last year and this year i think i will struggle to get through if i cannot work out how to weld up the upper part and main part of the rear spring front mount area.

    Anyone who knows the vans will know access is poor in this area and is only thing bothering me.

    I did the strut mounting area on 1 side last year and now other side needs doing too as has completely broken off lol
    With this missing the pressure on the spring mounting area was been too much and broken all previous persons welds (poor welding from what i seen).

    I shall post some pics when i get a chance.

    In meantime anyone else who had experience of this area i would love to know how you accesed top area. im thinking maybe cutting a hole in outside of van for access?

    Paul
     
  2. Paulegt New Member

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    Pics of the damage

    Some pics of the damaged area and the mounting that almost fell off when spring was removed but with a little help came clean off lol
     
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  3. tux Member

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    I'm not familiar with that specific repair, but it looks as if access is going to be the biggest issue. I think I would be tempted to see if I could get a proper repair section from somewhere.
     
  4. Paulegt New Member

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    From what i can see i can get reasonable access to the top through the side of the van if i cut a hole through bodywork and then through inner sill and weld both back up after.
    Good idea?
    does let me access the rot at top then
     
  5. Wozzaaah

    Wozzaaah The wizard of woz Staff Member

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    That's a pretty serious repair to undertake so without meaning to sound rude I'd be thinking about getting another van to be honest. I reckon you're only postponing the inevitable and you have to ask yourself if a 20 year old van is worth all the bother and whether it'll be safe for use after.
    I'm not suggesting your welding won't be up to it but if access is that bad then without doubt there'll be areas you can't get to satisfactorily so though the repair might appear ok and will pass an MOT it may not be structurally sound. ;)
     
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  6. eddie49 Member

    It looks like you need to reconstruct about a foot of chassis rail, in a curved shape, and add the spring attachment bracket to that. But everything to either side of that rail is rusty too.....and then the strut mount as well....I'm afraid it's a goner !
     
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  7. knoba

    knoba ...break a leg!

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    I agree with Woz & Eddie, from the pictures you've shown us, the surrounding areas don't look very happy and it'll only be a question of time before they will need doing too.
     
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  8. Paulegt New Member

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    apart from the rot in the area there is loads of surface rust nearby too which not too bad.
    There are other areas which need attention too but not immediate.
    Only reason im gonna attempt a repair rather than scrap it is i cant afford another van at moment due to renovating a flat and whilst i got wire and gas might as well weld it, m.o.t it in june and sell it for one with power steering:)
    most of the area seems only spot welded on so with seam welding over it i hope it will be more secure. got to be better than what i was running round with for last month lol
     
  9. Paulegt New Member

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    Just noticed my post from the past. Never finished story off.
    I did end up cutting a rectangle hole in the side of the van and then through the inner sill to access the upper sides of the repair.
    Did a full rebuild of area and refitted inner sill at end and outer body piece.
    Poor van looked like it had had a C section!
    Passed m. O. T first time and drove so much better.
    I must of spent 24 hours welding it all up.
    Then a few months later when parked up in Tunbridge wells some scumbag broke into it and stole it. They had crashed into something and set the van alite. I received it back with a caved in roof and completely burnt out with all my stuff in the back turned to Ash.
    Shame as was a good van under the shell lol.
     
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  10. eLuSiVeMiTe

    eLuSiVeMiTe Forum Supporter

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    28 year old.

    Buy a new van.

    Edit.
    Il shut up. Just noticed the date.
     
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  11. Wozzaaah

    Wozzaaah The wizard of woz Staff Member

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    :clapping::clapping::clapping:
     
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  12. Lewis_RX8

    Lewis_RX8 Member

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    pahaha:laughing:
     
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  13. eLuSiVeMiTe

    eLuSiVeMiTe Forum Supporter

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    In my defence 8 years is a long time for an update.
     
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  14. Paulegt New Member

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    Lol I know.
    I have just bought another escort van and was searching up rear chassis rails when I spotted some familiar pics on Google and thought... That looks the same as my van was. Lol
     
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  15. chris pruteanu Member

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    So you're doing the same mistake once again ! People never learn...
     
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  16. Bushy_1 Member

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    I didn't think there was any escort vans left that hadnt turned to dust!
     
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  17. dobbslc

    dobbslc Forum Supporter

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    Surely an old Connect would be cheap enough? Those Escorts were driving around rotten 15 years ago!
     
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  18. eLuSiVeMiTe

    eLuSiVeMiTe Forum Supporter

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    Haven't seen one for years.
    Sold mine in 2008
     
  19. Shedendman

    Shedendman Member

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    You'll spend just as much time under an old connect as you would an old escort
     
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  20. jimbo84 Member

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    There's one near me that looks quite tidy, not been underneath it though obviously!
     
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