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That was where it got clipped with a digger when we were trying to find it. There was never a join there before. I knew it was a weak point after that but weird how it's failed from the inside out.
Even if you restrict the pressure to 0bar at the top, you'll still have 16bar at the bottom. You want one or two mid run and then one at the property.
That's a good point!
There is one somewhere, I think at our end, but it's buried according to the previous owner and he wasn't sure where he buried it! Another leak point at some stage!
We see 6ish bar at the taps so there must be one.
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We are downhill from the main, and have 300psi pressure at the meter. I have got pressure reducing valves in the house, and we still have a small leak somewhere underground. I timed it, and worked out we lose about 500 litres a week
Oo. That's good to know.
Like this?
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Plasson Metric Pipe Insert
Plasson Metric Pipe Insert for PE pipes, available in sizes from 20mm to 63mm. Ensures secure, leak-free compression fittings. Ideal for water and irrigation systems.
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Use a strong solution of dissolved supermarket washing soda to neutralise the acid . give it two or three decent washes & * drain offs to be safe .
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Yep. Not sure why I recall the colour differently. Maybe there are other that suit or maybe I remembered wrong. But they are correct in metric mdpe.Like this?
Plasson Metric Pipe Insert
Plasson Metric Pipe Insert for PE pipes, available in sizes from 20mm to 63mm. Ensures secure, leak-free compression fittings. Ideal for water and irrigation systems.
The other good thing is that they get you a couple inchs or whatever it is extra length, which can mean the difference between putting in another joiner or not when the digger has smooshed something. And cutting the right amount out is easy to measure up
That's great. Thankfully my repair seems OK so far but it's good to know they exist as I have no doubt there will be more leaks on this darn pipe!!
Interesting is that where the pipes have been heat fused or is the ring in the middle picture where the pipe was gripped ? It looks as though a blob of hot weld has fallen inside the end of the pipe & burnt it .
It's really odd isn't it. We clipped it with a digger. I think that explains the misshapen bit and then I wonder if it's water erosion that's worn it away on a high point. It almost looks like some metals got lodged in it and rusted.
We think it'll cost around 7-10k all in. Given I used my one off leak allowance to wipe out a 7k bill shortly after we moved in, that's perhaps not such a silly investment.
We are though, right next to an old arsenic mine so I'm not sure what poisons will be in the water!
We have a 30ft deep well in our hallway outside of the lounge. There's a temptation to see if we could perhaps use that, but it needs to supply our house and the five holiday cottages so don't know if it's feasible. I also don't know if it's wise to suck water directly from under a house!
(But you are right, my pipe is a recurring issue on here!!)
is it pretty much across grass etc.?
I don't know what they're called, but you can get attachments for a tractor that are pulled along behind laying mdpe pipe underground as they go - sure someone here will know what they're called
might be easier to rent one and give a local farmer a drink to do it? fresh new pipe in?
it's pretty quick from what I've seen
I don't know what they're called, but you can get attachments for a tractor that are pulled along behind laying mdpe pipe underground as they go - sure someone here will know what they're called
might be easier to rent one and give a local farmer a drink to do it? fresh new pipe in?
it's pretty quick from what I've seen
It's between 1.25 and 1.5 miles through some very rocky ground. It goes from the road, through a garden, into farmer 1s fields, under a dirt track/lane, into farmer 2s fields, under a tarmac road (this bits steel pipe) then back into farmer 1s fields for about 3/4 mile and then into our fields and land. It's a mix of some 32mm black alakthene but mostly 25mm MDPE now. The 25mm is a problem as I think it's too small to supply the volume needed to us plus six cottages. If you turn all the taps on the last cottage on the run has no water!
In an ideal world, 100% replace it with 32mm blue pipe it's entire length but it's a heck of a job and might end up cheaper to do the borehole..!
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Mole plough behind a track machine if doing a new line. It might rise a bit in the harder ground but it'll be quick, compared to digging and no mess or reinstatement. Maybe the cost can be shared with other owners/farmer by putting in other lines at the same time. I'd invest in that as a priority if you have any of that old black stuff that leaks for fun. Even if you do sink a well or bh, with other properties on the line, mains as a backup is very valuable.
Seat of pants feeling is that 25mm might be on the small side to run 6x showers simultaneously 1.5km away. But equally, the meter/local water pressure might also be a limiting factor even if you upgrade to 32mm.
Whatever the restriction, you could potentially install an accumulator vessel on the incoming supply. It will take a lower flow rate input and allow temporary higher flow outputs, buffering the supply. You'll be glad of one for buffering/control of a pumped system if you go that route anyway.
I would be cautious about installing your own supply. For 6 properties and the 4 figure water bill associated would be tempting, but it's not free, faultless or without maintenance costs. And for paying guests, I'd definitely be including a UV unit and an annual water quality test too.
I can't see a well in a hallway being of much help, unless you want to service pumps in your hallway! (You don't). Or you can run a transfer pipe from the bottom of the well to new well rings outdoors. But that doesn't seem like a sensible solution really. It could be a cheap way of testing local groundwater though, if you have access.
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Is the pipe all your responsobility or is some of it the water company? Seems a long run for a domestic supply. Id have thought a 50mm pipe would be the way to go, if bothering to replace it. Folk use a lot more water now than back in the old days.
Last figure I heard for a bore hole was 12k, some of our neighbours put one in as the spring that used to supply a house and a cottage isn't man enough for the extra propertie they now have and higher water consumption.
Last figure I heard for a bore hole was 12k, some of our neighbours put one in as the spring that used to supply a house and a cottage isn't man enough for the extra propertie they now have and higher water consumption.
