Remote keyfob

[mike os]

call the aa

 

[octo0072000]

I have a bike not a car...so

I have a programmed key and a standard key.
The program key is for programming a second or third normal key which immobilises the immobiliser.
So if the programmed key goes duff I can still immobilise the bike and still start the bike with the normal key.

Does the car have a normal key that can unlock the doors and start the car with same key,enlighten me please gents.
I mean what if you're out in the wilds and having a picnic with missus and the fob key goes duff,what do you do?

Recovery comes to mind and how many people carry a spare key with them or actually have more than one key
if the car bike etc was bought used

 

[DanielW]

Recovery comes to mind and how many people carry a spare key with them or actually have more than one key
if the car bike etc was bought used

Got two with the bike and bought used,got a third key made and programmed that into immobiliser,one left in the house,one on the house keys ring and one on the seat/chainlock ring.

Must be my scouts training...be prepared.

 

[marlinspike]

Not strictly relevant, but when my Nissan key fob buttons wore out I sent it off to some Polish guy off ebay, in Lincolnshire, who fitted a new fob for about £15. Nissan had wanted £80 for a new fob and £50 to reprogram it to the car, which it obviously didn't actually need. Main dealers really take the p sometimes.

 

[the snooper]

call the aa

cant really see them doing anything they could get you into the car if you were locked out but cant see them doing anything about a broken remote fob

 

[mike os]

cant really see them doing anything they could get you into the car if you were locked out but cant see them doing anything about a broken remote fob

they can recover it to home for the spare though

how many people .....actually have more than one key
if the car bike etc was bought used

me, always... if it cost more than 1k I wont buy it with one key unless it is a real steal, if its from a dealer it has 2 keys or I am not interested....

 

[brightspark]

i have a spare taped to underside if me van and ive needed it as my dog locked the van doors and bloody key was in side ignition . and before u ask how he jumped up on window ledge and pressed the central locking catch

 

[Robotstar5]

.... and ive needed it as my dog locked the van doors and bloody key was in side ignition . and before u ask how he jumped up on window ledge and pressed the central locking catch

I've had the same, the doorlocks/window controls are on the drivers door armrest which is an ideal ledge for her front legs when looking out the window

 

[Mikey D]

My dog did the same with a hired van , jumped on the locking knob , had to get the hire company to come out with a spare key
Anyway back on topic I bought the toureg secondhand private sale , only one key . Had the same with my previous car , yea the fob packed in only needed a new battery tho luckily I was at home .
Anyway when I get home Saturday I will see if I dismantle the fob and remove the imobilizer bit and key .
Cheers mike

 

[mike os]

you have sbout 5 minutes after you remove the battery iirc, then it ma or may not hold the code

 

[normspanners]

Mate bought anew bmw mini only came with one key wanted a spare so went to bmw they ordered the key they rang him and said come to have the key programmed he arrived the guy at the service reception desk was on the phone and said could he pick up the key from the parts and bring it to him and he would programme it, my mate said ok do I have to pay for the key in parts, no he said I will do the invoice, the programming would cost £100 plus the key.
He went to parts got talkin to the guy in parts, and parts man, said that would be whatever the cost of the key was, with discount!, and do you want me to programme it for you, my mate said has it got to go on diagnostic computer, no parts man said, he walked out put the key in the ign waited 2mins started the car and said thats it, my mate was incensed, the guy in reception just shrugged his shoulders!! not bad £3000 hr

 

[the snooper]

you have sbout 5 minutes after you remove the battery iirc, then it ma or may not hold the code

The remote is pre set it won't lose the code, it's the car that learns the code not the other way round that's why you have a set pattern of things to do on the car to get it to accept the remote

 

[DanielW]

The remote is pre set it won't lose the code, it's the car that learns the code not the other way round that's why you have a set pattern of things to do on the car to get it to accept the remote

correct,my bike key I stick the master key in,turn on ignition for 3s,turn off then insert a normal key within 15s of turning off the master key and turn on ignition for another 3s then turn off.

 

[the snooper]

Its the PATs programming that tends to be dealer only, since that part still works you only have the remote fob to program up and that tends to be fairly user friendly, worth checking on a VW specific furum for the procedure, although for my galaxy which is VAG group the procedure is in the user handbook.

Edit: or see Snooper's info above

Fords used to come with a red master key to allow you to program new transponder keys insert red key ignition on / off remove master insert new key ignition on and it was programed,not sure if that's still the case vauxhals you can buy opcom for around 20 quid and it does just about everything on the car

 

[gerrymoore]

Bit off the main subject but the keyfob for my 307 amazes me!! I have had the car from new for 13 years and have never had to fit a new battery in the fob?? Have only used the remote central locking in all that time..must be 1000's and 1000's of times.....has it got some sort of everlasting battery!!

 

[jerrytug]

My 97 Astra has the original keyfobs and they both work on the remote central locking, never changed the battery!!

 

[normspanners]

Bit off the main subject but the keyfob for my 307 amazes me!! I have had the car from new for 13 years and have never had to fit a new battery in the fob?? Have only used the remote central locking in all that time..must be 1000's and 1000's of times.....has it got some sort of everlasting battery!!

My 97 Astra has the original keyfobs and they both work on the remote central locking, never changed the battery!!

Solar powered or maybe have a shake and charge like w**kwind watches

 

[steviec_lj]

A lot of them charge when they're in the ignition. They had the brains to build it in to the newer technology.