Prices!

[fizzy]

You mean like pensions, ISAs, corporate tax breaks, "charity" status for private schools, etc, right?

There is plenty of wealth around. All government debt is, by definition, someone else's wealth.

"Only solution..."

What a nonsense.

I can't see many pensioners going out to pick strawberries or pluck chickens

 

[MetalMonkey]

Another steel increase last Friday with immediate effect, £80/tonne

The figures I've seen for the last 12 months:

July +£30
August +£30
Nov +£40
Dec +£80
Jan +£50
March +£30
May +£150
June +£80

I wanted some box and flat, but at current prices those projects will have to wait.

 

[gaz1]

Another steel increase last Friday with immediate effect, £80/tonne

The figures I've seen for the last 12 months:

July +£30
August +£30
Nov +£40
Dec +£80
Jan +£50
March +£30
May +£150
June +£80

I wanted some box and flat, but at current prices those projects will have to wait.

that was my issue wanted a metre over the milling machine priced up 2" box section and thought no

not paying 50.00 for it

ended up building it out of free 4x2s instead

 

[fizzy]

Another steel increase last Friday with immediate effect, £80/tonne

The figures I've seen for the last 12 months:

July +£30
August +£30
Nov +£40
Dec +£80
Jan +£50
March +£30
May +£150
June +£80

I wanted some box and flat, but at current prices those projects will have to wait.

How much is the normal rate?

 

[Tangledfeet]

How much is the normal rate?

More like how much was the 'normal' rate... I'm holding off on some 'projects' I had in mind over my luxuriously lengthy (I'm a teacher...) summer holiday.

Will prices ever return to what we consider(ed) 'normal'..?

 

[4String.]

How much is the normal rate?

Yesterday I got a 7.5 metre length of 50x25 box for £26 and a 6 metre length of 60x6 flat for £22 from a steel stockholder near Stcockton after being quoted £160 for the same from a stockholder near Thirsk .

No idea if the price I paid is good or bad as it's years since I bought any steel but I needed it and I'm happy enough with the price.

 

[fizzy]

An example of the problems facing UK logistics at the moment. All 6 pallet networks are having serious problems.
We are getting different updates every day - nightmare - never had this before


This was today from just one of the networks!

"We are still seeing extremely high volumes and driver shortages across the whole network, which is causing delays, and some deliveries are therefore missing their requested time / date. Please note the following post code areas are more affected than others in the country, and deliveries are taking up to 3-5 days longer than expected:


GU1, GU10, GU2, GU3, GU4, GU5, GU6, GU7, GU8, GU9, KT1, KT10, KT11, KT17, KT18, KT19, KT2, KT20, KT21, KT22, KT23, KT24, KT3, KT4, KT5, KT6, KT7, KT9, RH1, RH2, RH3, RH4, RH5, RH6, RH7, RH8, RH9

GU26, GU27, GU28, GU29, GU30, GU31, GU32, GU33, GU34, GU35, SO16, SO20, SO21, SO22, SO23, SO24, SO32, SO40, SO41, SO42, SO43, SO45, SO51, SO52, SO53, SP1, SP2, SP4, SP5, SP6

NP10, NP11, NP12, NP13, NP15, NP16, NP18, NP19, NP20, NP22, NP23, NP24, NP25, NP26, NP4, NP44, NP7, NP8

CV1, CV10, CV12, CV2, CV21, CV22, CV23, CV3, CV4, CV6, CV7, CV8

TN1, TN10, TN11, TN12, TN13, TN14, TN15, TN16, TN2, TN27, TN3, TN4, TN5, TN6, TN9

YO1, YO10, YO19, YO23, YO24, YO26, YO30, YO31, YO32, YO60, YO61, YO62, YO90, YO91

EH49, EH51, FK1, FK10, FK11, FK12, FK13, FK14, FK15, FK16, FK17, FK18, FK19, FK2, FK20, FK21, FK3, FK4, FK5, FK6, FK7, FK8, FK9

PL1, PL10, PL11, PL12, PL18, PL2, PL20, PL21, PL3, PL4, PL5, PL6, PL7, PL8, PL9, PL95, TQ6, TQ7, TQ8, TQ9

SG1, SG10, SG11, SG12, SG13, SG14, SG15, SG16, SG17, SG18, SG19, SG2, SG3, SG4, SG5, SG6, SG7, SG8, SG9

EH1, EH10, EH11, EH12, EH13, EH14, EH15, EH16, EH17, EH18, EH19, EH2, EH20, EH21, EH22, EH23, EH24, EH25, EH26, EH3, EH30, EH31, EH32, EH33, EH34, EH35, EH36, EH37, EH38, EH39, EH4, EH40, EH41, EH42, EH43, EH44, EH45, EH46, EH5, EH6, EH7, EH8, EH9, EH95, EH99"

 

[Barking Mat]

No issues here, concrete, cement and steel is plentiful.

 

[The Artilleryman]

I can't see many pensioners going out to pick strawberries or pluck chickens

I'm definitely not picking strawberries, nor cabbages, broccoli or any other green veg, we are desperately short of farm workers here.

Driving jobs have mostly been long hours (legal max.) and poor family time, now people are finding that they may be able to live on less - IE less hours - and have a better family life.

The UK has been short of HGV drivers for years, but nobody wants to do anything about it !

 

[gaz1]

I'm definitely not picking strawberries, nor cabbages, broccoli or any other green veg, we are desperately short of farm workers here.

Driving jobs have mostly been long hours (legal max.) and poor family time, now people are finding that they may be able to live on less - IE less hours - and have a better family life.

The UK has been short of HGV drivers for years, but nobody wants to do anything about it !

its a crap wage with long hours youve really got to like the job to stick it out

too many delivery stops and more and more get added just for the companys profit

they really dont care about your D license your just a monkey that another monkey will fill again

 

[James1979]

I think a lot of people learnt over lockdown and reduced furlough they don’t need as much money as they thought they did and time is more valuable to them.

A lot of folk also won’t get their hands dirty to make money if they are short. Guy I know in Germany spent last summer picking vegetables. He’s got a good company but had a massive slow down early on in COVID, back to normal now. They have a different way of doing it there - they have like the old land army where you register for work. I think it’s government run.

 

[hunter27]

A friend told me the other day builders merchants are limiting cement to 5 bags per customer!

funny thing is it isn’t the cement that’s in short supply, it’s the plastic for the bags!

Our local builders merchant is limiting you to 5 bags of cement, I ordered 4 and it came in paper bags?

 

[Munkul]

Plastics have been in short supply also, but I would have thought bags for cement would be way down the order of things affected by that.

 

[hunter27]

Paper bags are ok if stored indoors, plastic bagged cement can be left on a pallet on-site in the rain

I realise that I was saying we were still limited to 5 bags even though it comes in paper bags which makes me think it's the cement that is in short supply.