Optrel repair

  1. SparkUK Member

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    My Optrel Vegaview 2.5 failed yesterday, anyone ever had a go at repairing one? I thought it was just batteries at first but no such luck. It's basically totally dead even with new batteries in.
    It looks like its ultrasonically welded together but a sharp knife would probably open it. Anyone done one?
     
  2. Shox Dr

    Shox Dr Chief Engineer to Carlos Fandango

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    I dug the button batteries out of an Optrel Satellite.

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  3. Brad93

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    Send it back to optrel.

    I wouldn’t touch the things with a barge pole, too sensitive for real work.
     
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  4. SparkUK Member

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    does that have batteries in the ‘control pod’ bit too?
     
  5. SparkUK Member

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    I bought it used so can’t send it back to Optrel. How do you mean too sensitive?
     
  6. Brad93

    Brad93 M J B Engineering

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    They’re helmets for tig welders, they can’t take heavy duty use or site abuse. They’re just not built tough enough.
    Bring a new model out every year just a bit better than the year before. Overpriced crap.
     
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  7. Shox Dr

    Shox Dr Chief Engineer to Carlos Fandango

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    Big set of hairy ones.
     
  8. Brad93

    Brad93 M J B Engineering

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    It’s not bollo-cks

    They’re light duty helmets. They fall off a bench they smash.
    The knobs on the side are junk.
    The headgear is junk.
    The lenses are junk.

    When you do 12 hours of GMAW or site tig work, please tell me it’s **Language**.
     
  9. Shox Dr

    Shox Dr Chief Engineer to Carlos Fandango

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    Your were implying that all Optrel helmet were pants, and that is not true.

    I guess its down to how you treat your gear
     
  10. Brad93

    Brad93 M J B Engineering

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    You can treat your gear as well as you like. They are not made for hard work.

    I guess you’d feel that way if you’ve spent a small fortune on a helmet that doesn’t live up to the hype that is created by clever advertising.
     
  11. Shox Dr

    Shox Dr Chief Engineer to Carlos Fandango

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    Honestly Brad, I’ve used Optrels for the last 15yrs. The only gripe I have is the drop down tension never stays the same, so the lids for ever dropping down.

    I’ve tried all the others, and found them all to have the faults you list. Yet I find the Optrel totally the opposite.

    As for hype, wasted on me.
     
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  12. SparkUK Member

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    I only use it for tig at home and found it more than adequate till it stopped working. It wasn’t dropped or banged, it just stopped.
     
  13. HughF

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    first rule of buying an auto darkening mask - buy one that has user replaceable batteries. Any manufacturer that has fixed batteries doesn't get my hardearned
     
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  14. SparkUK Member

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    this has got user replaceable batteries which I’ve changed. The old ones were a bit low but it’s not sorted it.
     
  15. HughF

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    Probably ready for the bin then... As Brad said, they're not the most reliable things.
     
  16. Troy Member

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    We have found the same optrel vegaviews just don't last in a heavy fabweld shop it was replaced with esab warriors for the fab lads they aren't the nicest to wear but they withstand alot of abusefor very little money
     
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  17. SparkUK Member

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    Bizarrely I removed the filter and left it on the window ledge in the kitchen till I got chance to have a proper look at it. It's working perfectly now bizarrely. I'm wondering if it needed some time in the light to recharge some internal caps after not having been used for six months or so and being packed in its lightproof bag. I've subjected it to some manipulation and stress and it works under all sensible conditions so I'm reasonably sure it's not a dry joint or ribbon cable problem.
     
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  18. Turbo Member

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    I was just about to type a post to advise you to try that, I'm surprised nobody else suggested it as it's a common problem.

    I bought a £200 Lincoln welding mask used for £30 that was flashing sometimes during welding. New button cell batteries didn't cure it but a day in the sun sorted it! :D
     
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  19. Dcal Member

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    I've had the same problem and solution with a Miller Infinity Digital.
    Maybe it's an American thing but more likely they are not designed for low hours DIY use.

    I thought I was doing a reasonable amount of welding when I was welding the Alfa (few hours most evenings over months) but the timer on the lid told me I had just 24hrs arc time.
    Annoying thing is you loose all the data when you change the batteries.
     
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  20. Munkul Member

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    Arc time is always low compared to positioning, prepping etc

    That's a large amount of arc time for one car IMO!

    TBF they all break down... just some less than others. I personally dislike them, but you can't argue with the reliability of 3M speedglas.
     
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