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Yes thats what I thought I had said when I said farm trailers.
I do not include light trailers (under 3500kg) in that group.
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have u ever finished a project yetgot then today, shame tyres are goosed,
will build bit by bit as i go along in time for the boat launch.
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Here ya go W.olly;
One I built for a mate.
What one calls a yard trailer, not for road use. One Ducato rear axle and an LDV steerable front. Boat is a Swedish wooden motor sailer from 1958, nice mahogany classic. Weighs around 4 ton. Keel sits in between the RSJs and the Acros support it. Cors, we trailed it a few km to the winter storage. Early on Sunday morn, not too many police about then
One I built for a mate.
What one calls a yard trailer, not for road use. One Ducato rear axle and an LDV steerable front. Boat is a Swedish wooden motor sailer from 1958, nice mahogany classic. Weighs around 4 ton. Keel sits in between the RSJs and the Acros support it. Cors, we trailed it a few km to the winter storage. Early on Sunday morn, not too many police about then
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have u ever finished a project yet
Oi, seems the cruiser is coming on quite well.
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OK, can you guys bring me up to speed regarding the current trailer regs please.
1) New regs came into play on 28 October 2012.
2) Any homebuilt trailer built after this date has to be inspected and approved before use on the road.
3) Any existing trailers that have been structural altered after this date have to be inspected.
4) Any existing trailers that have been dimensionally changed after this date have to be inspected.
5) Any structural repairs to an existing trailer after this date have to be inspected.
6) Inspection is similar to an SVA and is conducted at your local VOSA inspection station.
7) These are mandatory requirements which may result in prosecution if not adhered to.
8) If your trailer has been built/altered/structurally repaired after this date and has not been inspected and approved then your insurance policy is very likely void.
9) It is an offence to tow a trailer as above in an uninspected and approved condition on a public highway.
Out of curiosity how are demountable bodies affected?
N.B. bolt on, pinned on, twist lock.
I am assuming I can alter demountable bodies to my heart’s content, providing I do not alter the mounting points on the trailer chassis.
1) New regs came into play on 28 October 2012.
2) Any homebuilt trailer built after this date has to be inspected and approved before use on the road.
3) Any existing trailers that have been structural altered after this date have to be inspected.
4) Any existing trailers that have been dimensionally changed after this date have to be inspected.
5) Any structural repairs to an existing trailer after this date have to be inspected.
6) Inspection is similar to an SVA and is conducted at your local VOSA inspection station.
7) These are mandatory requirements which may result in prosecution if not adhered to.
8) If your trailer has been built/altered/structurally repaired after this date and has not been inspected and approved then your insurance policy is very likely void.
9) It is an offence to tow a trailer as above in an uninspected and approved condition on a public highway.
Out of curiosity how are demountable bodies affected?
N.B. bolt on, pinned on, twist lock.
I am assuming I can alter demountable bodies to my heart’s content, providing I do not alter the mounting points on the trailer chassis.
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How can it be proved that a trailer wasn't built or altered before 28/10/2012 ?
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It's possibly a requirement to have a data plate stamped on them (which could say anything of course
). But in reality there can't be any real way of proving anything because there isn't anything that can be shown to be new rather than old but good as new.Tyres can be new, suspension could be new or reconditioned, metal/paintwork could be redone. Trailer could be old but kept in dry storage and thus be old but appearing new. Basically I don't see any way that anything could be proven for a home built trailer.
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only if u use parts of a new ish vehicle then it can be proved by ageIt's possibly a requirement to have a data plate stamped on them (which could say anything of course
Tyres can be new, suspension could be new or reconditioned, metal/paintwork could be redone. Trailer could be old but kept in dry storage and thus be old but appearing new. Basically I don't see any way that anything could be proven for a home built trailer.
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So now that we have discussed what is not enforceable in the real world, enforceable or not what are the actual new trailer building regulations?
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I've no problem arguing the toss about a demountable body, especially if I make some mechanically locked twisted-locks.
I read demountable body as a temporary restrained load in much the same way as DROPS.
What does bother me is the customer asking me to either mod an existing trailer chassis that I know the customer and his friend have built from scratch over the last few months.
If I was building a trailer chassis from the ground up I would have absolutely no problem running it through test & approval, and that goes for major structural mods to an existing (but already approved) chassis.
I read demountable body as a temporary restrained load in much the same way as DROPS.
What does bother me is the customer asking me to either mod an existing trailer chassis that I know the customer and his friend have built from scratch over the last few months.
If I was building a trailer chassis from the ground up I would have absolutely no problem running it through test & approval, and that goes for major structural mods to an existing (but already approved) chassis.
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So there seems to be an awful lot of hear-say and speculation, along heaps of guestimation regarding trailer building regulations .............. has anyone actually seen a copy of the new regs? and if so where can I get a copy.
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Thank you Richard, that was just what I was after, and it has already cleared up one or two points for me.
It's a good guide. The only thing that has always puzzled me with it is in regards to the Trailer Identification Number. With a one off trailer build how do you get an ID number? Do DVSA/VOSA allocate you one when you book your trailer IVA or do you just make up a random 17 digit number?
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Thanks for the links. They will be useful
I need to build a trailer for my (in construction) boat. It is very out of the normal run, so trying to get a standard one modified here will be impossible.
So, my thought is.. Build it, take it over to UK and get it IVAed, then use that to get it licenced here.
Since 2012, home builds have effectivly been banned here and the homologation is out of sight for a one off. Used to be, up to 500kg was OK. After that, needs a log book, brakes and homologation = V. Expensive
Unfortunatley, my boat will be over 500kg, so plus the trailer will be well over the limit. So no chance of plating it as an older build. Which leaves me with finding a way of building and passing the local regs.
Local outfit quoted over 2K euro for a basic trailer for the weight. Nothing like what I need.
I need to build a trailer for my (in construction) boat. It is very out of the normal run, so trying to get a standard one modified here will be impossible.
So, my thought is.. Build it, take it over to UK and get it IVAed, then use that to get it licenced here.
Since 2012, home builds have effectivly been banned here and the homologation is out of sight for a one off. Used to be, up to 500kg was OK. After that, needs a log book, brakes and homologation = V. Expensive
Unfortunatley, my boat will be over 500kg, so plus the trailer will be well over the limit. So no chance of plating it as an older build. Which leaves me with finding a way of building and passing the local regs.
Local outfit quoted over 2K euro for a basic trailer for the weight. Nothing like what I need.
