New Toy. Big Drill

[Richiew]

I recently nabbed a bargain on Ebay. Badly described with one tiny photo with little sense of scale showing and went for a song. I put in a cheeky bid without knowing quite what it was except that it looked like very good old drill and it was sold on my doorstep. There were hardly any bidders.

I turned up the next day with my brother to help me pick the drill up. I optimistically thought from the pictures it was about 200 kg and reckoned I might get it in the Focus with a bit of effort if it was dismantled. I was stupidly wrong. After the shock of viewing and seeing what I had bid on I liked what I saw and paid my money and agreed to pick up the next weekend when I was better prepared.

I turned up the next weekend with three people to help plus an engine crane, trolley, wooden boards, slings, tools, jacks, Landrover and trailer.

We were unable to get the drill wheeled out of the garage door as I wanted due to the clutter in the sellers' garage and we had to drag it over the threshold of the back door of the garage and onto on a hastily constructed ramp which was a bit worrying. The engine crane was indispensable for liftingnthe drill in the trailer. I vowed to never buy anything from Ebay again at this point due to the hassle and trouble I had put my friends to as I had called in a few favours to get the beast moved and it was touch and go as to whether the little trailer would take the weight of the beast.


I expected the motor to be 3 phase but it has already been replaced with a 3hp single phase motor which is a massive result. I have found a manual online and the drill originally came with a 2hp 3phase motor. I have wired the beast up and she runs. I need to wire a starter/safety switch and also get the quill back into the drill head. I have had a go at trying to get it back up there but it seems to engage with the teeth and then jam. It fell out when a family member of the previous seller was playing with quill lever and over extended it so it dropped out

I have put a can of beer in the pics for scale. Its a 440ml or 16 ounce can for Shenion and his American friends. The drill goes down to 71rpm and its a 20mm or 3/4 inch chuck with a MT3 taper. Needless to say I will be very pleased once it is all properly set up.

If anyone has any experience with this make of drill I would be very interested to hear from you. It is a TOS V20. Made in Czechoslovakia. Does anyone know what grade of oil should be in the gearbox? The oil is up to the correct level but I would like to change it as I have no idea when it was changed last.

 

[Badger1bear]

Very nice

 

[chunkolini]

Looks fantastic, no ideas how it works.
Sorry to be a cheeky monkey; how much did you pay.
This might sound rude but it saves umpteen other people hinting at this query.
So many knobs.
That is a damn fine thing.

 

[car.crash]

May I ask what such a big drill will be used for?
It does look like a beast.

 

[Richiew]

I am embarrassed to say that my winning bid was £115. Which must be bargain of the year I reckon.

I didn't buy the drill for anything specific. I have a rubbish Chinese Clarke drill already which I have a very low opinion of and consequently I have been looking out for a decent drill for the last 12 months or so. I was on the lookout for a an old English drill like a Union or suchlike which everyone on here seems to recommend. I just wanted a heavy, solid bit of kit that would last me for life and wouldn't blink at anything I asked it to do. I think I have got it.

The drill has a geared head and power feed hence all the knobs.

If anyone is in the market for a Clarke CDP351 drill which needs a bit of fettling please get in touch.

 

[normspanners]

If carlsberg made canopeners they would be like that!! You keep moving the can of carlsberg round but havn't opened it! whats wrong you couldnt find a sharp drill bit to use ?

 

[rtbcomp]

Fantastic.

When re-fitting the quill rotate the chuck slightly, it sounds like it's not engaging with the splines that drive chuck shaft.

 

[madkayaker]

its easy to do miss the scale and end up with a monster. i wanted an oil tank and pump for gearbox oil and ended up with a 205L tank with pump!

 

[Richiew]

Fantastic bit of advice there rtbcomp. I think you are right. I will have a play over the weekend when I get chance and see if it solves the issue.

There are more knobs on the other side that aren't showing but it isn't actually as complicated as it looks. There's the crank handle for lowering and raising the drill head. The long handle you can see clamps the head to the pillar. The two front levers are for selecting speeds through gears. On the side you can't see there's a lever for selecting manual or power feed and a further lever for selecting one of four rates of power feed. The table on the side of the head gives all the different rates of feed for different drill sizes based on tensile strengths of steel that you may be drilling along with drill speeds.

I got caught out with the size issue as it is really a bench drill rather than floor standing. Its 1.3 metres tall. When I saw the original picture I thought "Its a bench drill, it cant be that big can it?"

I had a couple of sleepless nights after paying for it worrying how I would get it moved and home. I was mightily relieved and very pleased once we had trailered it away.

 

[jordan1]

All you have to do now is lift it onto your reinforced bench

 

[Wedg1e]

With that sort of mass and speed range, get an X-Y table under it and you have the makings of a milling machine...

 

[robwizard]

Bloody hell that looks sturdy! Nice score!

 

[Powermyster]

Great buy.
You'll need a bench like Al's for that. Good luck getting it onto the bench. Remember lift with the legs!!!

 

[500e]

Shuttering & 3/4 cube of concrete more like, steel to hold that will be more than the drill
will email you a BIG file.

 

[Seano]

I can hear my najjers groaning just at the thought of lifting it, by eck they build them big in eastern Europe and that's just the lasses, good find.

 

[Water skier 16]

I would rather put my back out than attempt to lift that tbh!

 

[Richiew]

Thanks to some simple advice from rtbcomp I have now managed to refit the quill. Just need some oil and a bit of time and effort sorting out the wiring. I am going to get rid of that chain holding the chuck key and taper drift as it is far too close to the chuck for my liking.

And yes the quill is supposed to stick out that far.

 

[rtbcomp]

I've placed a round magnet from a microwave oven on the tool tray on mine, this in turn holds the chuck key and taper drift.

 

[bigbadbugga]

That looks like bargain of the week to me

Looks like it will drill through anything.

 

[500e]

Richiew
Sent file but returned trying again as we write but 60meg+ sending link with separate email.
Takes a while to download ZIP file then time to unzip, my machine is usually pretty fast DL & unzip don't know it took so long.
Zip returned to big try the link I have sent
Had a better look through 41 pages lots of wiring.
Lucky it was not the 4 head machine there is a lot of information on lifting the little sucker