New nuclear announced

[sako243]

I would honestly like to be green (not physically) ..But I drive a diesel car, I burn fuel oil for heating, I use labour saving devices (washer/drier/d'washer/computers), weld, 3D print, use a furnace, drive a tractor and digger.
I don't grow my own food, buy pre-packed food from supermarkets. Have big tv sets.
I need to give all this up to make any effect. Where do I start?
I tend to think I'm not alone?
If only the Chinese had been happy being poor, then we might have just scraped by?
As an aside. I often wonder how the enviromental protestors actually get to their protest venues.
Walk, bike or stick-and-hoop?
As I see it we need at least one power plant for bitcoin and another for Google?

Start with one thing. Personally I'd start with growing your own food if you can. Tastes much better.

Or simply buy locally. Just sorting out other halves birthday BBQ and we're providing the venison, getting the sausages from a neighbour, burgers are coming from someone local. Doesn't cost anymore than the supermarket and I can guarantee it'll taste better.

 

[prepman]

Start with one thing. Personally I'd start with growing your own food if you can. Tastes much better.

Or simply buy locally. Just sorting out other halves birthday BBQ and we're providing the venison, getting the sausages from a neighbour, burgers are coming from someone local. Doesn't cost anymore than the supermarket and I can guarantee it'll taste better.

Used to grow it when I was younger, digging with a spade ain't the way now. It would have to be a power shovel.
That's delivered you don't need a car to get it?
The post was more a statement than a request for advice. We are hooked into a consumer lifestyle and we like it. Trying to generate power from cow's farts is a noble thing. But when world population doubles in the next 20(?) years if nuclear fusion isn't up and running then the future looks grim. The first thing to give up would be the car if possible, being rural not that simple. 2 buses a week and an uphill trek to get to them. I'd need a mobility scooter on bad arthritic days or a chair lift.
Supermarkets deliver so there is a good eco save there, rather than everyone driving out for a personal shop. Just a pity that it's all prepacked, so that it can be mauled by kids and adults and put back and still be saleable. Only way out of that is loose produce and service, not self service.

 

[prepman]

Anything is good if it removes/reduces greenhouse while not actually costing anything (much). Methane is a greenhouse gas.

Viriden have a plant in Peterborough which burns waste to generate leccy. Even the ash gets used by a factory unit, over the road, to make insulating building blocks. Any scrap metal that can be separated is also moved on for further recycling.

Maybe not the ideal way to use mainly plastics, but better than consigning it to land-fill.

The site is maintained in a very hygienic fashion - far better than the local landfill sites. And no gulls in residence - which are attracted to some local school playing areas, where some students can’t be bothered to retain and dispose of their food properly.

I agree. Better burnt than blowing in the wind. We've got more plastic floating about since recycling. The wheelie bins aren't a great option when you have to wheel them half a mile up hill. So the bins stay at ends of lanes...until the gales. Plus if any is spilt it's doesn't seem to be in the collectors remit to pick it up?
It's the only true way to get rid of filthy plastic. It certainly helped with witch epidemics in the middle ages? The other is to use masses of water to clean it and then what? Nobody really wants it. Glass isn't recycled...just ground up and ....you guessed it...landfill.
It needs to stopped at source. That would need legislation i.e. to make the supermarkets responsible for what they create. Root cause analysis ....straight back to them.
In the 60's there was outcry about non-returnable bottles from Schweppes. Of course the cost of the bottle (packaging) was hidden in the total price. So for them win-win? I feared about global warming then, not just now. When politicians admit to problems it means it's too late.
Their job is to tell us how wonderful things are now they're in power.
Motto.... I f'd up, we've got a problem ...what are you going to do about it?

Footnote...this government gave the NHS the 'clap'

 

[prepman]

Now for something completely different... If this doesn't raise spirits what does?

 

[Lewis_RX8]

Rough gas storage reopening now planned

UK in talks to reopen giant gas storage facility for winter

The government is considering scenarios in case Russia's gas shipments to the EU are disrupted.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Munkul]

Rough gas storage reopening now planned

UK in talks to reopen giant gas storage facility for winter

The government is considering scenarios in case Russia's gas shipments to the EU are disrupted.

www.bbc.co.uk

"At the time, the government declined to subsidise the facility telling Centrica "if the market doesn't think it makes sense - neither does the government", according to a company insider."

Sounds about right, for our government with its head in the sand... "future planning? Beyond the next election? nah, doesn't make sense"

 

[prepman]

Couldn't possibly happen here? We're far too intelligent and professional?
It's only caused by stupid people doing stupid things with dilapidated plants?

 

[GRW]

Not sure what they are doing at the main sewage plant in Swansea. When it was built it was really advanced and you never had a whiff from there.
Then they decided to go green.
The result is a stink from hell. It is truly awful. Luckily my warehouse is a few hundred yards West of it. The winds are nearly always Westerlies here but I have to drive past it to get to work. Your really can taste it.
All the residents complain about it

Sewage smell in Swansea causing a stink for residents

Residents from Swansea form a new campaign group to tackle a "disgusting" smell of sewage which is affecting the area where they live.

www.bbc.co.uk

This article was in 2015. Still the same today. Apparently if it is good for the environment then sod everyone else

And a current article

Main road into city stinks but now there's another plan to make it less smelly

One dog day care business owner said the smell in Fabian Way sometimes outweighed the odour of the animals' poo, and it's been a problem for years now

www.walesonline.co.uk

I've had to visit Swansea WWTW a few times.
I tell ya, there are a couple of spots in there where the stink is truly, truly rank.
I've been to a lot of Waste Treatment Works all over Wales - and this one is the worst by a country mile.
I'd hate to be there on a Saturday or Sunday morning, after the population of Swansea have divested themselves of a skinfull of beer and kebabs

 

[Morrisman]

As an aside. I often wonder how the enviromental protestors actually get to their protest venues.
Walk, bike or stick-and-hoop?
As I see it we need at least one power plant for bitcoin and another for Google?

I was wandering if any news media had detailed exactly how the green clowns got to that motorway service station where they smashed a bunch of petrol pumps up. Did they walk? Ride bicycles?

 

[minimutly]

That simply smacks of inadequate capacity. Built to a budget without a sensible amount for future increases in capacity.

This smacks of someone talking ****e about ****e they know nothing about...
It’s getting more like arsebook every day...


Did you see what I did there? “**** book”.....

 

[prepman]

This smacks of someone talking ****e about ****e they know nothing about...
It’s getting more like arsebook every day...


Did you see what I did there? “**** book”.....

Cheeky

 

[prepman]

I was wandering if any news media had detailed exactly how the green clowns got to that motorway service station where they smashed a bunch of petrol pumps up. Did they walk? Ride bicycles?

Levitation on cow farts?

 

[fizzy]

Taking a bus is regarded as ‘reasonably green’.

Except when they have only 2 or 3 passengers on board which is very often the case.

 

[minimutly]

Excuses, excuses? Got any better reason?

Not that I would want to air on here. The answers are always more complicated than just one thing.

 

[fizzy]

Not that I would want to air on here. The answers are always more complicated than just one thing.

They are indeed.
Inside knowledge beats any other source of info.