Need to weld inner arch of a car. It is destroyed how can i do this? Someone help.

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[Dieselman 63]

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Part exchange welcome - offer him your broken punto for £300 and you’ve reduced your welding job down to £695

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Break it for spares.
Then invest the funds in another car.
Brutal.
I knoiw.

It is not worth it.

Sadz

 

[tom2207]

My next door neighbor has cancer at the moment ,,, he parked his fifteen year old lacetti and didnt put the hand brake on ,, long story short it rolled into a ditch , every one said its scrap ,, I borrowed a crane and lifted it out , pushed the dents out with my boot and a crowbar ,,, made a rear passengers window from lexican , and it got an mot a couple of weeks later ,,,, is it pretty --- nope ,,, but hes still driving and the whole job cost a box of roses ,,, not everything comes with a big bill ,,, just grit our teeth and get started ,,, as a friend of mine used to say
how do you eat an elephant

one bite at a time.

 

[WeldingLasso]

strip of plate with a 90 angle 3" across 1" up. feather cut the side every inch (to make it curve)
weld it.

or.. you could cut a slip through in the arch. bend flat plate around the arch slipping in the cutting you've made. weld it in inside.
cut the excess of your plate from the arch outside leaving half an inch or so then hammer & dolly the lip upover if you can get your arms around. seam it up

Would you be able to draw this plan out

 

[steveo3002]

get it all cleaned up back to sound metal and see what you have left

get some 1mm steel sheet and offer up cardboard patches , make a bit and weld it on where it touches , repeat until the hole is gone , cant see it ever looking very nice at all but you could patch it over with some time and effort

 

[Kalts]

Do it only if you have time to spare, warm well lit garage and your goal is not to get through the MOT but to learn something!

 

[steveo3002]

and spend a afternoon with a torch having a good look around everywhere else on the car , i cant imagine its an isolated spot , so make double sure you know about all the bad area and repairs needed

 

[maroon]

Would you be able to draw this plan out

Not really, I'm not much of a cartoonist.

 

[stuvy]

and spend a afternoon with a torch having a good look around everywhere else on the car , i cant imagine its an isolated spot , so make double sure you know about all the bad area and repairs needed

Stick the wire brush around the underside of the car and find out what the other side is like

Looking at this side there will be rust else where in the sills

A screw driver and tap away would be my first port of call

 

[Slowcoach]

If you’re going to struggle making an inner arch you could cut and shut three or four of these car trailer mudguards. Might get you started.

 

[minimutly]

Would you be able to draw this plan out

This is a difficult enough repair without doing it while learning to weld. You need to bend flat sheet in two planes - impossible without a press and tooling or an English wheel. So you have to cut vees out, bend to fit, then weld the vees shut. All inside a wheel arch which you’re struggling to get your head into. A whole days work if you know what your doing, and the edges your welding to are good. It’s not much fun either.

 

[maroon]

Would you be able to draw this plan out

phase 1
cut blue
slide the plate (red) into the blue cut
weld yellow
from the outside trim the plate back just enough to cover the gap/hole half inch to an inch? you'll see when it gets to that point how much you need. try and tack as much as you can to the body. so when you welly it, its going to bend in the right place and not have the plate flopping about.
bend/fold up hammer dolly purple
you may need to put some some blue cuttings in to aid folding.

something like that.

 

[Kalts]

All inside a wheel arch which you’re struggling to get your head into. A whole days work if you know what your doing, and the edges your welding to are good. It’s not much fun either.

So true, I was recently harshly reminded of that. Bare head fits but try it with welding mask, bulky MIG gun + stiff cable... And do not forget lighting, as it is dark as in s*hole there without!

 

[tom2207]

depending on how its made ,,, if the outer wing popped off it would be a whole lot easier too ,,, if its only to pass an mot its not that bad really ,,, its certainly not 800 quid bad ,,, i genuinely think a day at it would sort it out to mot standards ,,

 

[lazybones51]

It "was" a inner arch from a punto

What year / model Punto? If it's something like a MK1 GT then it's 100% worth saving, or a MK2 HGT. It might be worth contacting somebody like Auto Sportivo in Bedford, as they've done their fair share of Puntos and might have a source of panels.

 

[RJY]

Have you phoned every wreckers in the land and tried to find cost+shipping for a rear quarter cut? Find out then backpedal to the original quote and start comparing costs.

A bit late, but may be of help - there are "middlemen" to breakers, these take your details and send them out to online suppliers and breakers who email you back. I have used, but have no connection with, 1stchoice.co.uk before. I just looked there to see what the possibilities are, using my vehicle, and got "sill cut" in a list of possible parts. I don't think the actual part name is absolutely required, but a description is.

 

[Dieselman 63]

A bit late, but may be of help - there are "middlemen" to breakers, these take your details and send them out to online suppliers and breakers who email you back. I have used, but have no connection with, 1stchoice.co.uk before. I just looked there to see what the possibilities are, using my vehicle, and got "sill cut" in a list of possible parts. I don't think the actual part name is absolutely required, but a description is.

Yeah they’re all right haha, I’ve had friends get a rear quarter and nose/front end cut before, decent price too. If you could get a non-rotten one this is what I’d do, if it came in under-budget of £800

 

[Memmeddu]

It "was" a inner arch from a punto

Punto?
176? 188? 199? Which one ?
There are panels from Polsky FIAT on eBay .
I have a 188 , and tbh if it's in those conditions there's surely something wrong or bad with it ,mine has 21 year not a single rust spot and I live next to sea ,the car never ever spent a day into a garage , and most of her 240k km are done off-road

 

[Kalts]

I guess they do not salt roads in winter there?