Migatronic 221 wire feed

[Rusty]

Hi all, does anyone know if you need to change / adjust or whatever the wire feed wheel when going from 0.8mm wire to 0.6mm wire on the Migatronic 221.
Also any websites that may have some info on this machine, i have checked out the Migatronic site but its only real basic stuff on there, i could do with an operation manual.
cheers.

 

[weldequip]

Should have two grooves on the bottom feed roller, just reverse it depending on the wire diameter.
weldequip

 

[Rusty]

Should have two grooves on the bottom feed roller, just reverse it depending on the wire diameter.
weldequip

Thanks weldequip.

 

[Ratty]

Also any websites that may have some info on this machine, i have checked out the Migatronic site but its only real basic stuff on there, i could do with an operation manual.
cheers.

I had a similar problem with my m'tronic 185x (very old - 15 years - and no longer made) I emailed Migatronic and got a link to a PDF manual download almost by return from this guy - george.clark@migatronic.co.uk
They are very helpful and rang me today to answer another query I had about the machine (for which they had to phone Denmark). This is the rest of their contact details..
Migatronic Welding Equipment Ltd
21 Jubilee Drive, Loughborough, Leicestershire, LE11 5XS
Tel +44 1509 267499, fax +44 1509 231959

 

[Rusty]

I had a similar problem with my m'tronic 185x (very old - 15 years - and no longer made) I emailed Migatronic and got a link to a PDF manual download almost by return from this guy - george.clark@migatronic.co.uk
They are very helpful and rang me today to answer another query I had about the machine (for which they had to phone Denmark). This is the rest of their contact details..
Migatronic Welding Equipment Ltd
21 Jubilee Drive, Loughborough, Leicestershire, LE11 5XS
Tel +44 1509 267499, fax +44 1509 231959

Hi Ratty thanks for the info,i have found some info on the various Migatronic
sites ( pdf's ) but they all seem very basic ( this knob does this that button does that ) but nothing in detail about the setting up of the machine etc,
what was your manual like, any good ? i have emailed the link you gave me i'l let you know what i get back.
cheers.

 

[Ratty]

Hi Ratty thanks for the info,i have found some info on the various Migatronic
sites ( pdf's ) but they all seem very basic ( this knob does this that button does that ) but nothing in detail about the setting up of the machine etc,
what was your manual like, any good ? i have emailed the link you gave me i'l let you know what i get back.
cheers.

How'd you get on Rusty? Any joy?
The "Instruction Manual" I got was pretty useful, has pages describing techniques, causes of common faults and how to cure them, maintenance, replacement of the control unit and wire guide liner and a table of settings for different thickness material.

 

[Rusty]

How'd you get on Rusty? Any joy?
The "Instruction Manual" I got was pretty useful, has pages describing techniques, causes of common faults and how to cure them, maintenance, replacement of the control unit and wire guide liner and a table of settings for different thickness material.

Hi Ratty,i had a reply from the email but it was the same info that i had already found ( nothing in detail ) sounds like what you had is the sort of thing i was after.
cheers.

 

[Ratty]

Hi Ratty,i had a reply from the email but it was the same info that i had already found ( nothing in detail ) sounds like what you had is the sort of thing i was after.
cheers.

Shame, I wonder why they had nothing more detailed. If it's any help, this is the manual for mine, http://service.migatronic.com/media/automig_x_inst._gb.pdf some of the info might be useful.

 

[Rusty]

Shame, I wonder why they had nothing more detailed. If it's any help, this is the manual for mine, http://service.migatronic.com/media/automig_x_inst._gb.pdf some of the info might be useful.

Thanks Ratty, looks better than what i've got.
cheers.

 

[Rusty]

Back to the wire feed !

Hi all. the Migatronic Automig 221 i have just bought came with 0.8mm reels and 1.0mm reels, as i intend to only weld thin gauge material i would like to change to a 0.6mm setup and as weldequip said earlier just turn the wire feed wheel around to suit the 0.6mm,but in removing the wheel it's marked 0.8mm on one side and 1.0mm on the other, do i contact Migatronic for a 0.6mm wheel or does anyone know if the 0.8mm will do the job ( i am a tight ol git ) also the spindle on the machine that takes the wire reel has a locking mechanism on it so that when you push the reel onto the locating peg it automatically locks into place,but the 0.6mm reel being narrower ( 5kg reel ) and if i push the reel right in onto the locating peg it will not lock into place or line up with the wire feed entry point to the torch,so do i fit some sort of spacer ?

 

[Rusty]

Hi all. the Migatronic Automig 221 i have just bought came with 0.8mm reels and 1.0mm reels, as i intend to only weld thin gauge material i would like to change to a 0.6mm setup and as weldequip said earlier just turn the wire feed wheel around to suit the 0.6mm,but in removing the wheel it's marked 0.8mm on one side and 1.0mm on the other, do i contact Migatronic for a 0.6mm wheel or does anyone know if the 0.8mm will do the job ( i am a tight ol git ) also the spindle on the machine that takes the wire reel has a locking mechanism on it so that when you push the reel onto the locating peg it automatically locks into place,but the 0.6mm reel being narrower and if i push the reel right in onto the locating peg it will not lock into place or line up with the wire feed entry point to the torch,so do i fit some sort of spacer ?

The 0.6mm wire is a 5kg reel.

 

[malcolm]

The remains of a roll of tape makes a great spacer for the 5kg reels, though the official way to do it is a 1.5 inch plastic spacer. Normally the spacer would go between the plastic plate that the back of the reel rubs against and the welder body. WHichever position makes it line up with the wire feed best.

You'd probably not get any sensible tension on the wire running 0.6mm through a 0.8mm grove, though it could be worth a shot if it looks like it would stick out far enough for the top roller to grip on it. Where to get a 0.6 roller whan Weldequip is on holiday I don't know.

 

[Rusty]

The remains of a roll of tape makes a great spacer for the 5kg reels, though the official way to do it is a 1.5 inch plastic spacer. Normally the spacer would go between the plastic plate that the back of the reel rubs against and the welder body. WHichever position makes it line up with the wire feed best.

You'd probably not get any sensible tension on the wire running 0.6mm through a 0.8mm grove, though it could be worth a shot if it looks like it would stick out far enough for the top roller to grip on it. Where to get a 0.6 roller whan Weldequip is on holiday I don't know.

Thanks malcolm, i found some plastic tubing in the garage which fitted nicely over the shaft then i made two spacers from the tubing one behind the reel and one between the locking strips and the reel so that the reel lined up nicely with the feed roller, also the 0.8 roller seems to work fine,i expect weldequip has a more professional method of doing the job but this is fine until he gets back.
cheers.