Mig welding Gas

[hotponyshoes]

Fill pressures kind of work "like" a fibonacchi sequence. But each gas has its own kind of sequence. The higher it is, a lot more gas is in there.

Like an few extra bars can double the contents of the bottle.

Fill pressures are relative to the contents,
So a 300bar 10l will only have 50% more gas than a 200bar 10l.

If you think you will get through a decent amount of gas then the time/distance to collect a bottle needs to be taken into account.

When I last worked it out it was cheaper to use a hobbyweld 300bar rent free than boc on rental until I get to the point of using more than 3.2 bottles a year then boc works out cheaper.
I run a few different types of gas.
If you just have one type and have to drive a bit further but collect 2 or 3 bottles at once it might work out different for you.

On the rent free the 300bar work out cheaper for the gas and come with a regulator but have a higher upfront deposit

 

[maroon]

Fill pressures are relative to the contents,
So a 300bar 10l will only have 50% more gas than a 200bar 10l.

If you think you will get through a decent amount of gas then the time/distance to collect a bottle needs to be taken into account.

When I last worked it out it was cheaper to use a hobbyweld 300bar rent free than boc on rental until I get to the point of using more than 3.2 bottles a year then boc works out cheaper.
I run a few different types of gas.
If you just have one type and have to drive a bit further but collect 2 or 3 bottles at once it might work out different for you.

On the rent free the 300bar work out cheaper for the gas and come with a regulator but have a higher upfront deposit

where I live is nobody does rent free. Other than one that's an outlet for albee. Adams is either a trip to northallerton or Sunderland. I think sgs closest is York. Even for hobby weld is a trip to Darlington for small bottles. Bishop Auckland for larger ones.

You just need to do your own calculations to see what's best for you.

Just work everything by volume by each. And not liters

So for me to get a 1 small bottle of hobby weld is costing me a tenner in diesel.
For me to go get boc, it's nipping to asda.

 

[fbiiburton]

Fill pressures are relative to the contents,
So a 300bar 10l will only have 50% more gas than a 200bar 10l.

If you think you will get through a decent amount of gas then the time/distance to collect a bottle needs to be taken into account.

When I last worked it out it was cheaper to use a hobbyweld 300bar rent free than boc on rental until I get to the point of using more than 3.2 bottles a year then boc works out cheaper.
I run a few different types of gas.
If you just have one type and have to drive a bit further but collect 2 or 3 bottles at once it might work out different for you.

On the rent free the 300bar work out cheaper for the gas and come with a regulator but have a higher upfront deposit

Hobbyweld want £219 for a 300bar £110+vat for the bottle . there only like 1 mile away from me .Not sure how long it would last though could be years lol

 

[hotponyshoes]

where I live is nobody does rent free. Other than one that's an outlet for albee. Adams is either a trip to northallerton or Sunderland. I think sgs closest is York. Even for hobby weld is a trip to Darlington for small bottles. Bishop Auckland for larger ones.

You just need to do your own calculations to see what's best for you.

Just work everything by volume by each. And not liters

This/\
If you are a large scale user and you know you use exactly 2.75 bottles every 5 day shift then it's worth comparing gas prices to the nearest £0.50

For a hobby/light user the convenience/availability is probably more important.

I'd be happy to pay an extra £10 a bottle for something local as that's extra welding time for me over driving to collect it.

I have at least 2 suppliers within 10mins of me plus one of them opens Saturday mornings.
There is a proper welding suppler 30mins away which is not a bad drive if you don't weld much and also want to get 2 mig tips and a single helmet lense at the same time.

I was originally with boc but the place I was getting them from changed to hobbyweld.
They are only 5mins away and open sat am. They don't stock much else that I use but the next nearest boc place is mon-fri and 20mins away so I've swapped to hobbyweld.
I did do the maths and it's costing me a bit more than boc but I'm happy paying for the convenience.

The less common gas mix I get from the 30min drive welding supplies as I only need to go down there twice a year or so and I can get other stuff at the same time so I'd rather do that than make the drive to boc for just gas for those mixes as well.

 

[fbiiburton]

It seems there is a adams gas distributor close to me 200bar 10l tank £116 all in obviously no regulator.

 

[Turbo]

I'm an SGS gas user & taking into account fill pressures etc it works out cheaper than BOC for 1 or 2 bottles per year, for 3 bottles its around the same, for 4 or more bottles BOC is cheaper.

As for the deposit, when you get the SGS bottle it will have a sticker on it saying '2022 deposit'. When you return it you get that full amount refunded & if you get a refill they will charge you the deposit on the new bottle.

There is also a forum offer where you get a cashback of £20 on your first bottle of gas.

With some of the other rent free companies the amount of deposit you get back diminishes with every year you have the cylinder, so be aware!

 

[Keithmac]

Who's SGS supplier on York?.

I was using BOC but for my usage the Bottle Rental was a bloomin joke (£120 a year).

 

[fbiiburton]

I'm an SGS gas user & taking into account fill pressures etc it works out cheaper than BOC for 1 or 2 bottles per year, for 3 bottles its around the same, for 4 or more bottles BOC is cheaper.

As for the deposit, when you get the SGS bottle it will have a sticker on it saying '2022 deposit'. When you return it you get that full amount refunded & if you get a refill they will charge you the deposit on the new bottle.

There is also a forum offer where you get a cashback of £20 on your first bottle of gas.

With some of the other rent free companies the amount of deposit you get back diminishes with every year you have the cylinder, so be aware!

Forum offer?

 

[maroon]

Who's SGS supplier on York?.

I was using BOC but for my usage the Bottle Rental was a bloomin joke (£120 a year).

HOW MUCH!!!! are you on a 47/50l bottle?

Sending you a pm with supplier

 

[Beanwood]

Forum offer?

Did you read the link I posted above?

 

[fbiiburton]

Did you read the link I posted above?

I had a look but it was years ago and I'd read that it had expired, I'm on vzi but not been on there since I closed volkstorque down. Confusing what offers still stand