Lidl brushless angle grinders

[ronan]

The sister was heading to the local shopping centre, so i scabbed a lift and bought one. They only had one. Comes with a 4ah battery and a fast charger. Don't have time to try it out now, but i'll give it a rattle tomorrow and see is it any use.

 

[HughF]

Do the regular 20v Team batteries fit the performance stuff? I was always under the impression that they were different...

As for a grinder spanner, honestly... Can't remember the last time I used one. Unless they have reversable grinders now, the disk won't come off no matter how loose you tighten the nut.

 

[Memmeddu]

I've reviewed it on the forum , it Impressed me

 

[Gragson]

Do the regular 20v Team batteries fit the performance stuff?

Yes = at the bottom of the spec bit in the add "Battery compatible with all tools in the "Parkside X 20V" Team series" Works fine on my multitool

Be looking out for body only.

 

[Memmeddu]

Do the regular 20v Team batteries fit the performance stuff? I was always under the impression that they were different...

As for a grinder spanner, honestly... Can't remember the last time I used one. Unless they have reversable grinders now, the disk won't come off no matter how loose you tighten the nut.

The actual performance line is compatible with X20V Team battery platform .

 

[Wozzaaah]

and the alternative is the disc flying off at 22,000 rpm

Really?? In all honesty what’s the likelihood of that happening? Surely if the nut was to go slack the disc will slip and if cutting at the time it would simply stop spinning? in any case I think you’d know it was loose and stop the grinder long before it became a flying throat slitter. Exploding discs are far more dangerous, as you’ll well know.
I’m another who often can’t be bothered to use the spanner though I do tend to when mounting slitting discs as they’re a bit fragile. as others have said, on most discs a quick bump with a gloved hand nips them up just fine and the direction of rotation keeps them tight. I’ve not had one come loose yet.

 

[Screwdriver]

Really?? In all honesty what’s the likelihood of that happening? Surely if the nut was to go slack the disc will slip and if cutting at the time it would simply stop spinning? in any case I think you’d know it was loose and stop the grinder long before it became a flying throat slitter. Exploding discs are far more dangerous, as you’ll well know.
I’m another who often can’t be bothered to use the spanner though I do tend to when mounting slitting discs as they’re a bit fragile. as others have said, on most discs a quick bump with a gloved hand nips them up just fine and the direction of rotation keeps them tight. I’ve not had one come loose yet.

I think someone is so desperate to prove a point they are missing the point. Finger tight is daft, only someone with an axe to grind would leave out the "nip up with a gloved hand". Done that for 20/30 years and no glorified parking warden has ever given me a ticket for it, nor have I ever had a disk flying off at 22,000 rpm on my 6,500 rpm grinder.

 

[PhillipM]

Same, just nip the outside of the disc by hand, 's all it needs, the nut will torque itself up if you give the disc any abuse anyway.

 

[PhillipM]

The key is just a lever, same as the disc. I've seen way more discs snap and fly off because someone has cranked down with a key and put a crack in 'em, than I've ever damaged any other way.
The key is there to get the nut off when you've been giving a disc some stick and it's torqued the nut right up itself tbfh.

If it was that critical they'd give you a torque wrench and a spec for your discs, most of the time they just tell you to make sure the nut is 'secure'

 

[Screwdriver]

I may have got the grinder speed wrong, but if it wasn’t meant to be properly tightened a key wouldn’t be supplied

you all can do what ever you want, but I’ll carry on tightening up properly with the key

We may respectfully agree to disagree. I accept of course that this technique is not one which I would teach as good working practice but since it's just little old me in my shed, no kittens were harmed. I did actually ask the question "am I doing it wrong" after seeing the chap in the video torque it down as if it was the only nut on a lorry wheel.

Fact is, the spinning disk will tighten up in use and unless the device is heavily braked, it will stay that way. I used to use a proper wrench but it soon became quite clear, if you couldn't find the damned key, you could quite easily unscrew the disk by (gloved) hand. That suggested to me the approximate toque you would expect from a wrench can be achieved by hand.

 

[Turbo]

I have one of the brushed 20v Parkside grinders & it's absolutely pants. Absolutely no power & it eats batteries. Anything other than a light touch with a disc stops the grinder!
OK, the brushless one might have better performance but as has been said, at that price you're getting close to a decent branded unit. Plus you'll need to buy another 4ah battery at £25 if you need to use it normally.

Our Men's shed has a brushless variable speed 18v Makita costing £125 for the bare unit, you can get a package of a grinder, charger & 2 4ah batteries for £229.
https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/ma...MIwsOLgMGH6wIViLTtCh08DgZMEAQYBSABEgLLIfD_BwE

Yes, it's twice the cost of the lidl unit but it's more than twice the grinder! I've used it quite a bit & it's every bit at good as a 240v one.

 

[willie.macleod]

Does nobody else use FixTec nuts on their grinders? Metabo also do tool free nuts and someone else as well. Never had a disc come of with these and no pin spanner required.

https://www.bigredpowertools.co.uk/4932352473

 

[ronan]

I worked in a couple of largish fab shops and no one that i ever seen used the pin spanner that came with the grinders. if you are changing back and forth between cutting discs, grinding discs and sanding discs, often quite a lot, you just use your gloved hand. Its all i have ever used.

 

[Wozzaaah]

perhaps I’m biased by knowing and seeing pics of what happens when things go wrong.

Today I’ve been dealing with a situation where a man won’t be going home for a long long time and then won’t ever be the same again. He went to do a job that was only gonna take 10 mins, just a quick thing, done it loads of times before. He took a short cut, something he’s done many times.

All the right kit was there on site

As sad as that might be I doubt very much it involved an angle grinder disc coming loose due to him not using the pin spanner.

 

[ronan]

I have one of the brushed 20v Parkside grinders & it's absolutely pants. Absolutely no power & it eats batteries. Anything other than a light touch with a disc stops the grinder!
OK, the brushless one might have better performance but as has been said, at that price you're getting close to a decent branded unit. Plus you'll need to buy another 4ah battery at £25 if you need to use it normally.

Our Men's shed has a brushless variable speed 18v Makita costing £125 for the bare unit, you can get a package of a grinder, charger & 2 4ah batteries for £229.
https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/ma...MIwsOLgMGH6wIViLTtCh08DgZMEAQYBSABEgLLIfD_BwE

Yes, it's twice the cost of the lidl unit but it's more than twice the grinder! I've used it quite a bit & it's every bit at good as a 240v one.

Yes i would not bother with the brushed Lidl grinders, useless as has been reported. But the Makita is well over twice the price of brushless one, for just using in a shed thats a lot of outlay. I have a couple of 110v corded small grinders and a whopper of a 9" Hitachi if i need to get serious, but for the small jobs i reckon this Lidl is enough at just under a ton.

 

[Screwdriver]

Yes i would not bother with the brushed Lidl grinders, useless as has been reported. But the Makita is well over twice the price of brushless one, for just using in a shed thats a lot of outlay. I have a couple of 110v corded small grinders and a whopper of a 9" Hitachi if i need to get serious, but for the small jobs i reckon this Lidl is enough at just under a ton.

I have a 9 inch grinder and it's the only tool in the shed that has me proper scared. I don't use it much. A neighbour asked if he could borrow a disk grinder to hack off some tiling that projected across our shared drive. "Sure" I said, "do you want this lovely little Bosch 4.5 inch jobbie or the proper man size version?" "What's that?" he says, "oh the 9 inch one, I call it 'sudden death'". He went for the Bosch...

 

[HughF]

I've got the regular cheapo 20v parkside one, I find it perfectly usable. Don't know what you guys must be doing with them to find them that rubbish.

 

[Memmeddu]

I have a 9 inch grinder and it's the only tool in the shed that has me proper scared. I don't use it much. A neighbour asked if he could borrow a disk grinder to hack off some tiling that projected across our shared drive. "Sure" I said, "do you want this lovely little Bosch 4.5 inch jobbie or the proper man size version?" "What's that?" he says, "oh the 9 inch one, I call it 'sudden death'". He went for the Bosch...

I bought my 7" Metabo for the same reason....
9" is too much weight ,I use it only for heavy grinding never for cutting ,I do prefer the smaller beast .
It just weights 2.7kg instead of the almost 6kg of my Bosch 9" one .
And it has more power 1900W vs 1800W , lighter ,much more safer (antirestart, safety clutch ,antivib and locking guard ) , and it has also a computer inside which regulates the speed while cutting , essentially it spins slowly if you are not applying pressure on the wheel and once you're cutting the speed reaches the maximum RPM rating and it will stay constant.
The Bosch I have has just the soft start but only because I've added this feature to it myself .
I should make the review of both the 7" grinder (almost 2 years) and the rotary hammer (almost 3 years)

 

[aguycalledsteve]

For as long as it takes to nip the thing up with the spanner. It takes seconds. I've tied the spanner to the power cord on mine so it's always to hand but never hindering.

I had an accident with a grinder about 18 months ago and ever since it's use it properly or find a different way to do it.

 

[Memmeddu]

For as long as it takes to nip the thing up with the spanner. It takes seconds. I've tied the spanner to the power cord on mine so it's always to hand but never hindering.

I had an accident with a grinder about 18 months ago and ever since it's use it properly or find a different way to do it.

I can't understand why many peoples don't use it properly .
Always the safety guard and handle correctly positioned on my grinders .
Few months ago I've had a near miss because I wasn't using a clamp to hold the part I was working on ,the wheel grabbed the part that being practically catapulted away small cuts on my fingers because the sharp edges , fortunately the wheel didn't touch me